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#21 Postby JohnTK5 » Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:57 am

MomH wrote:
I always wonder why it could snow in places like texas, and florida but California at higher latitude hasn't seen snow in thousands of years outside of its mountains.


Beg to differ. I had 10 inches of snow in my yard in the desert of CA. Ridgecrest, to be exact and in 1979. Had the most beautiful flowers all over the desert floor the following spring. By the way, the snow did not fully melt for 2 1/2 to 3 weeks.


Well Ridgecrest is at 2300 feet elevation, I forgot about the high desert of California which does get snow. But Areas like Sacramento, and the north coast like Eureka haven't seen a drop of snow in over a 1000 year.
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#22 Postby SoupBone » Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:07 am

Brent wrote:New Orleans had flurries too(don't think it accumulated, but still).

Very strange.



Houma which is 20 miles from the coast had accumulated snowfall. It was awesome. I would guess 4 inches or so. I enjoyed the hell out of it. :D
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#23 Postby terstorm1012 » Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:04 am

deltadog03 wrote:well, i have always been told that a BIG cane season means a colder than normal winter for the central and eastern states...



It does. The '95-'96 winter featured the "Blizzard" of 1996----nearly 3 feet of snow at Philadelphia International Airport and the suburbs immediately to the airport's west.--AFTER a very active hurricane season....followed 3 weeks later by major flooding as all the snow melted at once.
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#24 Postby cajungal » Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:09 am

SoupBone wrote:
Brent wrote:New Orleans had flurries too(don't think it accumulated, but still).

Very strange.



Houma which is 20 miles from the coast had accumulated snowfall. It was awesome. I would guess 4 inches or so. I enjoyed the hell out of it. :D


Yes, I enjoyed the snow very much that Christmas Day. It was strange getting snow that close to the coast. And we had plenty of accumulation at my house. Enough to make a snowman. It was nice all us adults being kids again in the snow. And watching all my little cousins faces light up because they never saw snow before.
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#25 Postby WindRunner » Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:41 pm

JohnTK5 wrote: haven't seen a drop of snow in over a 1000 year.


Don't think we've ever had a "drop of snow" anywhere in the US ever.
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#26 Postby JohnTK5 » Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:51 pm

WindRunner wrote:
JohnTK5 wrote: haven't seen a drop of snow in over a 1000 year.


Don't think we've ever had a "drop of snow" anywhere in the US ever.


You know what I mean, some places with even higher latitude on the west cost than Philadelphia haven't seen more than even 0.00000001 inches of snow in over a 1000 years in California.
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#27 Postby inotherwords » Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:38 pm

Not sure where the "no snow in 100 years" thing came from with regard to Houston. I lived there for 9 years in the late 70s through late 80s and I remember a 1/4"-1/2" accumulation one year around 1979-ish. They even closed the schools, which I found pretty funny having originally been from the northeast where this would have been nothing. No hurricane that year. It was drastically less snow than the Christmas Eve storm mentioned, but the claim of "no snow in 100 years" isn't accurate.

Also saw snow flurries one year, and a small accumulation of snow on cars another year in Tampa in the mid-1970s. No hurricanes those years there, either.
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#28 Postby JohnTK5 » Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:48 pm

inotherwords wrote:Not sure where the "no snow in 100 years" thing came from with regard to Houston. I lived there for 9 years in the late 70s through late 80s and I remember a 1/4"-1/2" accumulation one year around 1979-ish. They even closed the schools, which I found pretty funny having originally been from the northeast where this would have been nothing. No hurricane that year. It was drastically less snow than the Christmas Eve storm mentioned, but the claim of "no snow in 100 years" isn't accurate.

Also saw snow flurries one year, and a small accumulation of snow on cars another year in Tampa in the mid-1970s. No hurricanes those years there, either.



Another thing I wonder, why is it cold in Florida during the winter but Vietnam which is at a similar latitude albiet in the Pacific Ocean and not Atlantic is hot 365 days a year. It is hot and hummid in Vietnam everyday of the year, but Florida has a winter, spring, summer, and fall. Why is this.
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#29 Postby Javlin » Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:39 pm

I had brought this at one before the season started also CG we had snow here along the coast also.We also had snow in 85 hence Elena.I talked to our local one day about it he was sorry to inform that winter percipation info was not recorded well.I just wanted to see if winter percipation(snow) had a relation to active GOM seasons in general.
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#30 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:41 pm

Regarding the Gulf Coast:
Perhaps the snow event and the hurricane onslaught that followed
along the gulf coast had something to do with temperature extremes
and nature balancing itself out. Very cold snowy winter and extreme
heat this summer with SSTs well into the 90s...just conjecture....


Regarding my location:
Not to steal the post or anything, but I found it strange that the winters
prior to the 2004 and 2005 seasons were well above normal here
especially with regards to overnight lows. Kept the waters warm until
hurricane season.
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#31 Postby Roxy » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:09 pm

And another thing, it's September freaking 25th and it's still 95+ degrees.

What the hell is going on Mother Nature?
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#32 Postby Portastorm » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:10 pm

Roxy wrote:And another thing, it's September freaking 25th and it's still 95+ degrees.

What the hell is going on Mother Nature?


HA! That's nothing. It hit 108 degrees here in Austin today. 108!
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#33 Postby Roxy » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:24 pm

Portastorm wrote:
Roxy wrote:And another thing, it's September freaking 25th and it's still 95+ degrees.

What the hell is going on Mother Nature?


HA! That's nothing. It hit 108 degrees here in Austin today. 108!


OMG! :eek:
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#34 Postby Portastorm » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:29 pm

Roxy wrote:
Portastorm wrote:
Roxy wrote:And another thing, it's September freaking 25th and it's still 95+ degrees.

What the hell is going on Mother Nature?


HA! That's nothing. It hit 108 degrees here in Austin today. 108!


OMG! :eek:


Yeah, that's kinda what we're thinking at the moment ...
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#35 Postby inotherwords » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:10 pm

Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:Regarding the Gulf Coast:
Perhaps the snow event and the hurricane onslaught that followed
along the gulf coast had something to do with temperature extremes
and nature balancing itself out. Very cold snowy winter and extreme
heat this summer with SSTs well into the 90s...just conjecture....


Regarding my location:
Not to steal the post or anything, but I found it strange that the winters
prior to the 2004 and 2005 seasons were well above normal here
especially with regards to overnight lows. Kept the waters warm until
hurricane season.


I noticed that this year and last, the GOM temps went over 80 degrees a lot sooner than they did in previous years.
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#36 Postby Clint_TX » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:21 pm

AAAAAHHHHSOOOO Grasshopper
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#37 Postby JohnTK5 » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:32 pm

Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:Regarding the Gulf Coast:
Perhaps the snow event and the hurricane onslaught that followed
along the gulf coast had something to do with temperature extremes
and nature balancing itself out. Very cold snowy winter and extreme
heat this summer with SSTs well into the 90s...just conjecture....


Regarding my location:
Not to steal the post or anything, but I found it strange that the winters
prior to the 2004 and 2005 seasons were well above normal here
especially with regards to overnight lows. Kept the waters warm until
hurricane season.


Above normal? Didn't it snow there.
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#38 Postby inotherwords » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:32 pm

Our coastal FL summers typically see daily thunderstorms every afternoon at around 3-4 p.m. We have been about six weeks without these storms.

It's just really unusual. And we're dry as a bone. I can certainly understand mother nature wanting to intercede but speaking for the region, I'd safely offer that we'd be happy just to have our storms back instead of a big hurricane, thankyouverymuch!
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#39 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:35 pm

JohnTK5 wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:Regarding the Gulf Coast:
Perhaps the snow event and the hurricane onslaught that followed
along the gulf coast had something to do with temperature extremes
and nature balancing itself out. Very cold snowy winter and extreme
heat this summer with SSTs well into the 90s...just conjecture....


Regarding my location:
Not to steal the post or anything, but I found it strange that the winters
prior to the 2004 and 2005 seasons were well above normal here
especially with regards to overnight lows. Kept the waters warm until
hurricane season.


Above normal? Didn't it snow there.


Flurried near Cape Canaveral back in jan. 2003, since then it hasn't
really gotten colder than 45 F in the winter right on Tampa Bay.
So we had a couple of mild winters here.
Sure inland areas and Tampa dipped into the 30s during winters
but right along the Bay it has stayed pretty mild.
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#40 Postby JohnTK5 » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:59 pm

Does the warm Atlantic Ocean make the east cost COLDER during the winter or something, I notice the east cost is significantly colder than the west coast during the winter, even though we have the ice cold Pacific Ocean.
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