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#561 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:50 am

deltadog03 wrote:HAHAHAHA!!!! Stop fighting on where its going...lol...The front is not going to due much with....don't worry about it...


Well I'm still a bit shaken from last year so anything that forms
I will go crazy until I am super-sure I am in the clear.
Especially after seeing what Charley did. So I've been worked up
in watching since then.
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#562 Postby x-y-no » Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:50 am

deltadog03 wrote:HAHAHAHA!!!! Stop fighting on where its going...lol...The front is not going to due much with....don't worry about it...


Care to offer your meteorological reasoning? :roll:
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#563 Postby skysummit » Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:51 am

Why stop fighting? That's what this board has turned into this year. This season has just been waaaaaaaaaaay too much for everyone.
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#564 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:52 am

x-y-no wrote:
deltadog03 wrote:HAHAHAHA!!!! Stop fighting on where its going...lol...The front is not going to due much with....don't worry about it...


Care to offer your meteorological reasoning? :roll:


x-y-no out of curiosity I am wondering why the models are not
picking up on the cold front. These models have local newstations
convinced that 99L will stay well South of FL. I disagree with them
as well as the models.

I am really starting to get concerned now.
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#565 Postby skysummit » Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:54 am

Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
x-y-no wrote:
deltadog03 wrote:HAHAHAHA!!!! Stop fighting on where its going...lol...The front is not going to due much with....don't worry about it...


Care to offer your meteorological reasoning? :roll:


x-y-no out of curiosity I am wondering why the models are not
picking up on the cold front. These models have local newstations
convinced that 99L will stay well South of FL. I disagree with them
as well as the models.

I am really starting to get concerned now.


That's probably because the models have initialized 99L's location well SOUTH of where a possible LLC is forming. We'll have to wait until we get a truc LLC to look at the models properly.
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#566 Postby deltadog03 » Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:55 am

first of all it was a joke about to stop fighting...we need to discuss this...I just don't think this front will have any effect on this. I think the front will be long gone by time this gets close. All of the globals show a massive ridge building in. That front will come and go...just an early thought
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#567 Postby skysummit » Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:58 am

deltadog03 wrote:first of all it was a joke about to stop fighting...we need to discuss this...I just don't think this front will have any effect on this. I think the front will be long gone by time this gets close. All of the globals show a massive ridge building in. That front will come and go...just an early thought


I agree with you delta. My comment was a joke too :)
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#568 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:58 am

skysummit wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
x-y-no wrote:
deltadog03 wrote:HAHAHAHA!!!! Stop fighting on where its going...lol...The front is not going to due much with....don't worry about it...


Care to offer your meteorological reasoning? :roll:


x-y-no out of curiosity I am wondering why the models are not
picking up on the cold front. These models have local newstations
convinced that 99L will stay well South of FL. I disagree with them
as well as the models.

I am really starting to get concerned now.


That's probably because the models have initialized 99L's location well SOUTH of where a possible LLC is forming. We'll have to wait until we get a truc LLC to look at the models properly.


Thank you for the explanation :wink:
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#569 Postby MortisFL » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:00 am

Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
x-y-no wrote:
deltadog03 wrote:HAHAHAHA!!!! Stop fighting on where its going...lol...The front is not going to due much with....don't worry about it...


Care to offer your meteorological reasoning? :roll:


x-y-no out of curiosity I am wondering why the models are not
picking up on the cold front. These models have local newstations
convinced that 99L will stay well South of FL. I disagree with them
as well as the models.

I am really starting to get concerned now.


You disagree with meteorologists and models... probably not a good idea.
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#570 Postby HouTXmetro » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:01 am

There is a second powerful front coming through by mid week which is suppose to knock 10-15 degrees off our Daily High Temps. Depending on the orientation of that Front, it's very plausible that it could pick up 99L, on the otherhand, if 99L continues to move around 10mph I doubt it will.
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#571 Postby jax » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:01 am

no -removed- allowed...
please..
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#572 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:02 am

MortisFL wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
x-y-no wrote:
deltadog03 wrote:HAHAHAHA!!!! Stop fighting on where its going...lol...The front is not going to due much with....don't worry about it...


Care to offer your meteorological reasoning? :roll:


x-y-no out of curiosity I am wondering why the models are not
picking up on the cold front. These models have local newstations
convinced that 99L will stay well South of FL. I disagree with them
as well as the models.

I am really starting to get concerned now.


You disagree with meteorologists and models... probably not a good idea.


It's not meteorlogists I disagree with "in this case only as the models
have initialized an incorrect LLC location", it's newscasters who
base their statements on faulty models I disagree with.

Dick Fletcher said it NEEDS to be watched-- so he isn't writing this one
off. Fox 13 was downplaying it
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#573 Postby deltadog03 » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:03 am

good point...that front will be soooooo NICE...its gonna be great...but, its gonna be a quick hit and boom gone...we will have to see...im not -removed-...
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#574 Postby HouTXmetro » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:04 am

Well it's not a depression yet so we can't definitivly say the models initated the center too far south.
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#575 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:04 am

jax wrote:no -removed- allowed...
please..


This accusation is preposterous, unwarranted, and unfounded.Remarks like the above aside,
I am analyzing based on scientific information.
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#576 Postby x-y-no » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:05 am

Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
x-y-no wrote:
deltadog03 wrote:HAHAHAHA!!!! Stop fighting on where its going...lol...The front is not going to due much with....don't worry about it...


Care to offer your meteorological reasoning? :roll:


x-y-no out of curiosity I am wondering why the models are not
picking up on the cold front. These models have local newstations
convinced that 99L will stay well South of FL. I disagree with them
as well as the models.

I am really starting to get concerned now.


The issue is that the few operational tropical models which initialized the system at all did so too far south by over a degree. But probably the best guidance from them would be the BAMM, which takes it WNW over the next couple of days.

The globals are all too weak and too slow with it right now, we'll see if they pick it up better tonight. Weak and slow would translate into a left bias in the track, since the shallow steering is more westerly, and the ridge has more time to build in.

(EDIT ... I typed NNW, changed to WNW)
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#577 Postby HouTXmetro » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:06 am

deltadog03 wrote:good point...that front will be soooooo NICE...its gonna be great...but, its gonna be a quick hit and boom gone...we will have to see...im not -removed-...


With temps forecasted to hit the century mark in Houston today. I just don't see this front making much progress into the Gulf.
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#578 Postby x-y-no » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:06 am

HouTXmetro wrote:Well it's not a depression yet so we can't definitivly say the models initated the center too far south.


I base that statement on bouy data. Station 42058, which is up at 14.98 N 74.99 W, had WSW winds this morning.
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#579 Postby MortisFL » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:07 am

Big t-storms approaching Jamaica
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#580 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:08 am

x-y-no wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
x-y-no wrote:
deltadog03 wrote:HAHAHAHA!!!! Stop fighting on where its going...lol...The front is not going to due much with....don't worry about it...


Care to offer your meteorological reasoning? :roll:


x-y-no out of curiosity I am wondering why the models are not
picking up on the cold front. These models have local newstations
convinced that 99L will stay well South of FL. I disagree with them
as well as the models.

I am really starting to get concerned now.


The issue is that the few operational tropical models which initialized the system at all did so too far south by over a degree. But probably the best guidance from them would be the BAMM, which takes it NNW over the next couple of days.

The globals are all too weak and too slow with it right now, we'll see if they pick it up better tonight. Weak and slow would translate into a left bias in the track, since the shallow steering is more westerly, and the ridge has more time to build in.


Thank you for the explanations :wink:
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