Florida Landfalling Storms

[Cookiely]

Why aren't there any storms in the following locations? Is there a geographic reason or just plain luck?
1. Between Alma and Easy
2. Gladys and Charley
3. Dora and David
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gifs/hur5005.jpg

[DESTRUCTION5]

Why aren't there any storms in the following locations? Is there a geographic reason or just plain luck?
1. Between Alma and Easy
2. Gladys and Charley
3. Dora and David
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gifs/hur5005.jpg

Angle...

[sponger]

Climitology and good luck!

[Brent]

Angle of the coastline. Notice most of the landfalls are where the coastline juts out(Outer Banks, Keys, South Florida), whereas the jutting in(Florida Big Bend, Northeast Florida, Georgia) has much fewer or even no landfalls.

[flhurricaneguy]

what was the latest in the season a storm has made landfall in florida

[sfwx]

Those areas have been affected but they just weren't the exact point of landfall.

Eric

[NastyCat4]

Luck, and the fact that storms don't seem to landfall around 29-20 N that often. However, Jacksonville got hit by Tammy. So, let's go to the bottom line---LUCK.

[linkerweather]

Just a point that only goes back to 1950. Western Florida had its fair share in the 1920s-1940s

[aerojad]

Why aren't there any storms in the following locations? Is there a geographic reason or just plain luck?
1. Between Alma and Easy
2. Gladys and Charley
3. Dora and David
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gifs/hur5005.jpg

overlay average tracks. that and points where the coast juts out and sinks in. it's angles + luck, really.

[weatherwindow]

latest fla landfall....december 1, 1925...tampa...cat 1

[weatherwindow]

Just a point that only goes back to 1950. Western Florida had its fair share in the 1920s-1940s

.....1921, 1924, 1925, 1926, 1929, 1932, 1936, 1939..and many more back door and brushes...overdue, yes.....rich

[inotherwords]

When TS Gabrielle came ashore in 2001 near Venice on Sept. 14 there were recordings in buoys offshore that showed sustained winds just over hurricane strength. This was told to me personally by one of the NOAA guys whom I'd interviewed for an article in 2002. It was never reclassified as a hurricane at that point of its evolution, but he told me it probably should have been.

Whether this is technically correct is moot at this point, my only point in bringing it up is to show that this part of FL is not immune from a landfalling hurricane.

[Brent]

When TS Gabrielle came ashore in 2001 near Venice on Sept. 14 there were recordings in buoys offshore that showed sustained winds just over hurricane strength. This was told to me personally by one of the NOAA guys whom I'd interviewed for an article in 2002. It was never reclassified as a hurricane at that point of its evolution, but he told me it probably should have been.

Whether this is technically correct is moot at this point, my only point in bringing it up is to show that this part of FL is not immune from a landfalling hurricane.

I've always believed Gabrielle was probably a hurricane as well. That was one of the only times I didn't follow a tropical system very closely because of the 9/11 attacks.

[EDR1222]

Just a point that only goes back to 1950. Western Florida had its fair share in the 1920s-1940s

Excellent point. That is one of things I don't like about that chart. Florida was continually battered from the mid 1920-s thru the late 1940's.

[jdray]

once again Ill refer to this research:
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/Landsea/history/index.html


Ive condensed the totals to what affected NE Florida alone. History is taken from Castillo De San Marcos (St Augustine) until Jacksonville itself was a proper city.
Dora also had wind readings of 115mph at landfall, making it a Cat 3 storm
*sorry for the long post here:

1565 September
Hurricane - sank the French Fleet from Ft Caroline in present day Jacksonville

1571 September
Hurricane - St Augustine Landfall

1599 September
Hurricane - inundated St Augustine

1638 August
Hurricane

1641 September
Tropical Storm

1674 August
Hurricane

1707 September
Hurricane

1753 August
Tropical Storm

1769 September
Hurricane

1794 October
Hurricane

1797 October
Hurricane

1804 September
Hurricane

1806 September
Hurricane

1811 October
Hurricane

1812 October
Hurricane (same dates as one in 1811, 2 storms back to back years)

1813 September
Hurricane - possibly a major

1824 September
Hurricane

1825 June
TS (backdoor hit)

1825 October
Hurricane

1830 October
Tropical Storm

1831 June
Tropical Storm (backdoor hit)

1835 August
Tropical Storm

1837 August
Hurricane -possibly a major (barometers in Puerto Rico read 28.00 | 948mb )

1837 August
Tropical Storm - second storm passes offshore in same month bringing TS force winds to coastline

1837 August
Tropical Storm - backdoor hit (3rd "hit" within same month)

1837 September
Tropical Storm (a total of 6 storms affect NE Florida and Georgia that year alone)

1841 September
Tropical Storm

1842 August
Tropical Storm

1842 October
Hurricane backdoor hit

1842 October
Tropical Storm - possible recurve of earlier storm in October

1844 September
Hurricane

1846 October
MAJOR Hurricane - backdoor hit, 917mb in Havana, 901mb near Key West

1848 September
Hurricane - backdoor hit

1848 October
Tropical Storm - backdoor hit

1852 October
Tropical Storm

1853 October
Tropical Storm

1854 September
Hurricane (Major Hurricane for Georgia)

1861 August
Tropical Storm

1867 June
Tropical Storm

1871 August
HUrricane

1871 August
Tropical Storm

1871 September
Tropical Storm

1874 September
Tropical Storm

1877 October
Tropical Storm (backdoor hit)

1878 September
Hurricane - 989mb reading, weak Cat 1

1880 August
Tropical Storm

1880 October
Tropical Storm

1882 October
Tropical Storm

1885 August
Tropical Storm

1885 October
Tropical Storm (backdoor hit)

1888 October
Tropical Storm

1893 June
Tropical Storm

1893 August
Hurricane (major in Georgia)

1893 October
Tropical Storm

1894 September
Hurricane

1894 October
Tropical Storm

1896 September
MAJOR Hurricane

1897 September
Tropical Storm

1898 October
Hurricane (major in extreme NE Florida and Georgia)

this list alone shows that NE Florida is nowhere near immune from hurricanes like most people think.

[Cookiely]

Thanks to all of you for your expertise. The map I used didn't tell the whole story. Thanks for pointing that out to me.

[gtalum]

I've always believed Gabrielle was probably a hurricane as well. That was one of the only times I didn't follow a tropical system very closely because of the 9/11 attacks.

I think that's precisely why Gabrielle didn't get any coverage. She knocked out power all over Sarasota County for 3-5 days. There was A LOT of tree debris all over the place.

I did drive to work from my home in Sarasota to my office in Venice. The interstate was full of semis that had been blown off the road. At work we lost power shortly after I got there, and we were all standing on the lee side of the building watching the palm trees bent over in half as her center came ashore in the morning. It was a pretty cool little storm.

[NastyCat4]

Love the "pirate ship" logs back to the 1500's. I am sure they are extremely accurate, as they had wonderful dropsondes, and radar in those days....lolol

Obviously, we have no empirical data before the 1900's that has even the slightest semblance of reality. Thus, we can assume that it is a combination of climatology and luck. I seriously doubt the veracity of "heresay" reports from the 1500's-1850's.

[RonStallcup]

The linked graphic shows Hurricane Erin as a Cat 2.

Hurricane Erin hit Pensacola in 1995 as a Cat. 1.

[jdray]

Love the "pirate ship" logs back to the 1500's. I am sure they are extremely accurate, as they had wonderful dropsondes, and radar in those days....lolol

Obviously, we have no empirical data before the 1900's that has even the slightest semblance of reality. Thus, we can assume that it is a combination of climatology and luck. I seriously doubt the veracity of "heresay" reports from the 1500's-1850's.

Most of those reports were from the Commander of Castillo de San Marcos or the Spanish Governor of Florida. When water is up 8-10 feet, trees fall down, high winds, more than likely its a TS or better.

Why dont you actually read the research before blasting it. It was done by two NOAA employees.