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#721 Postby jhamps10 » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:09 pm

Stratosphere747 wrote:
jhamps10 wrote:true, very true. Some people DO wishcast on here. I look at a good consis of models, and other posters info. I also agree that Pretty much the entire GOM from Mobile East needs to look at this closely.


Why on earth would you forecast landfall at 155mph?



This is an area that has been hit with NO storms since Dennis back in the early part of the season. The water is still VERY warm for this time of year. the only reason why I think that it is at 155 at landfall is like with Charley last year, it hit a warm eddy a few hours before landfall, and I think that Wilma- TD 24 will do the same.
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#722 Postby gatorcane » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:09 pm

Absolute rubbish.. Your forecast is about as good as your use of html tags. Strengthening to 155MPH at landfall?


Well he may be off there, I would say at least a CAT 3 if not more.

The eastern GOM is still plenty warm. This year's hurricane's have not impacted the eastern GOM that much.
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#723 Postby Stratosphere747 » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:11 pm

jhamps10 wrote:
Stratosphere747 wrote:
jhamps10 wrote:true, very true. Some people DO wishcast on here. I look at a good consis of models, and other posters info. I also agree that Pretty much the entire GOM from Mobile East needs to look at this closely.


Why on earth would you forecast landfall at 155mph?



This is an area that has been hit with NO storms since Dennis back in the early part of the season. The water is still VERY warm for this time of year. the only reason why I think that it is at 155 at landfall is like with Charley last year, it hit a warm eddy a few hours before landfall, and I think that Wilma- TD 24 will do the same.


Really?

http://fermi.jhuapl.edu/avhrr/gm/averag ... _multi.png

Maybe I'm missing that "warm eddy"....;)
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#724 Postby jkt21787 » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:14 pm

bobbutts wrote:Absolute rubbish.. Your forecast is about as good as your use of html tags. Strengthening to 155MPH at landfall?

What a wonderful first post. Did you only register to bash and flame his forecast? It sure looks like it. :roll:
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#725 Postby johngaltfla » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:14 pm

Brent wrote:
ivanhater wrote:next monday


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Looks to come in right at Sarasota/Port Charlotte.


To quote someone here:

HOLY CRAP!

:eek:
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#726 Postby wxman57 » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:15 pm

Brent wrote:-removed- is people who project the storm to hit where they live. When someone who doesn't live in Tampa Bay predicts a hit there, that is not -removed-.


Perhaps it's "reverse-wishcasting"? ;-)
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#727 Postby wxmann_91 » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:16 pm

Actually I can say his peak intensity of 155 mph is quite realistic, but I'd have to say that it will occur in the Caribbean. Once it the GOM, increasing shear and slightly cooler waters will cap off intensification. In fact, U.S. landfall should not be above Cat 3 intensity.

The folks I'm worried about are in Cuba. They may take this storm head-on.
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#728 Postby floridahurricaneguy » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:16 pm

Umm, is it me or does it not look real impressive now?

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#729 Postby johngaltfla » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:18 pm

Brent wrote:-removed- is people who project the storm to hit where they live. When someone who doesn't live in Tampa Bay predicts a hit there, that is not -removed-.


So as a resident of Tampa Bay, -removed- this dang thang to hit Nigeria isn't so bad then? Right?

:eek:
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#730 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:19 pm

floridahurricaneguy wrote:Umm, is it me or does it not look real impressive now?

Matt


I agree...Every one thinks this will be a very powerful storm. I just don't see it at this moment...I think we will see Wilma out of this. In maybe a cat 1 or 2 hurricane...The northern Gulf of Mexico SST's are around 26C/27C which is a little cool for a monster. The only parts that could hold a cat3 together is Texas/Mexico or Southeastern Florida.

We will see but this is not doing anything really fast.
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#731 Postby El Nino » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:20 pm

I don't think it's "rubbish". SST in the Florida Straight are around 28-29°, which clearly support a cat4 hurricane (maybe weak, but still a cat4). Or at least a major one. As someone said, this is the place where Rita and Katrina exploded ...
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#732 Postby THead » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:20 pm

floridahurricaneguy wrote:
edbri871 wrote:Sorry to sound rude. I don't normally post, only read. Being from Fort Myers Beach I am a little concerned. Having said this, its way too early to tell anything. It just gets on my nerves the way people misguide others by -removed-. The people in Tampa, say this is probably gonna be a tampa hit. The ones in south florida say its gonna hit south Fl. The members in the panhandle say it will hit them, and so on. I just find it so immature that some of you people consider yourselves knowledgable in this field when all you do is wishcast that the hurricane is coming for you.

Anywhere from The keys all the way to Alabama need to watch this, and really noone has more a chance then anyone else. The models will continue to flip flop over the next 5 days. It just amuses me that everyone says "its coming to my area", especially after all the damage we have see this year. Why do you want your local environment changed dramitcally, I know I love it here in Fort Myers Beach, and a hurricane would basically make a beautiful area a real mess, not to mention deaths and destruction.


Well I think your wrong and a lot ways. Not being rude either but there are smart people on here and some unsmart. A lot of us are making our forecast based off models. When the GFS ultimately seems to want keep bring it towards west florida then we are going to predict its going there. It would be dumb if models all have it hitting Pensacola to say oh its hitting Tampa. We go by research and models and forecast to the best of our ability.

Matt


Like one member says on here all the time, the name escapes me now, but he says, 'the safest place to be is right in the center of the models 5-7 days out'.
:wink:

Not saying that is the case this time. I'm leaning toward more of a central fla west coast hit, mainly because i think its too early in October to be getting a cold front any further south then central florida. And I imagine the storm will track right along the frontal boundary NE'ward.
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#733 Postby edbri871 » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:20 pm

-removed- is people who project the storm to hit where they live. When someone who doesn't live in Tampa Bay predicts a hit there, that is not -removed-.


I gotta disagree a bit there. After watching some people on this board during Katrina and rita, it seemed almost like some people were cheerleading for the hurricanes to directly hit NOLA and Houston.

People are free to say what they think, but The things 6-7 days away. Its noone knows where its gonna hit.
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#734 Postby floridahurricaneguy » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:20 pm

I agree. I think minimal 3 at landfall or High 2. Still dont need that though.
I want to see what happens tomorrow.

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#735 Postby Brent » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:21 pm

edbri871 wrote:I gotta disagree a bit there. After watching some people on this board during Katrina and rita, it seemed almost like some people were cheerleading for the hurricanes to directly hit NOLA and Houston.


:roll: Okay...
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#736 Postby Weatherfreak14 » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:22 pm

I can say a cat 3 or maybe evaen a cat4 is my prediction. But at the least a cat 2 and a strong at that.
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#737 Postby wxmann_91 » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:23 pm

Like one member says on here all the time, the name escapes me now, but he says, 'the safest place to be is right in the center of the models 5-7 days out'.
:wink:


Well unfortunately that member is wrong. If you want to be safe from looking into the eye perhaps, but remember, whether it hits on the left or right edge of the cone, the center of the original cone will get affected. So pretty much if you are on that black line you'd better hope that the center of the storm strays away from the cone, especially if the storm is Katrina or Rita sized.
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#738 Postby THead » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:26 pm

wxmann_91 wrote:
Like one member says on here all the time, the name escapes me now, but he says, 'the safest place to be is right in the center of the models 5-7 days out'.
:wink:


Well unfortunately that member is wrong. If you want to be safe from looking into the eye perhaps, but remember, whether it hits on the left or right edge of the cone, the center of the original cone will get affected. So pretty much if you are on that black line you'd better hope that the center of the storm strays away from the cone, especially if the storm is Katrina or Rita sized.


That's why I said it probably wasn't the case this time. I think the forecast track will be somewhat easier on this one, after the trough becomes involved. And that's why I think the margin for error on this one, even this far out, is prolly smaller, meaning the long range forecast might be more accurate than usual.
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#739 Postby AZS » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:28 pm

Latest GFDL model


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24 hours ago it seems a CUBA storm. Now it is a Yucatan Storm

BIG CHANGE

But in this season anything can happen.
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#740 Postby FlSteel » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:28 pm

Right now, I'm not so much worried about exact landfall location. Obviously anywhere from the AL/MS border to the keys is most likly to get hit. My worry is that as usuall, people are more concerned about where the eye is going to make landfall, and not really considering how large of an area will be impacted. This storm looks to be much larger than Charlie when you look at the visible and if it hits anywhere on the west coast of FL, it will impact the majority of the state with lots of ran and winds. A major chance of wide spread damage with this storm in my opinion. Just my 2 cents worth. :)
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