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#521 Postby jax » Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:24 pm

Team Ragnarok wrote:That's about 136 kt/157 MPH surface. Still a 5.

I'm guessing the 122 kt is in the outer eyewall.



157 x .8 =121.6 surface
121 knots = 138 mph... cat 4 right?
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#522 Postby Solaris » Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:25 pm

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URNT12 KNHC 191822
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 19/18:06:20Z
B. 17 deg 24 min N
083 deg 23 min W
C. 700 mb 2149 m
D. 75 kt
E. 29 deg 008 nm
F. 111 deg 128 kt
G. 023 deg 002 nm
H. EXTRAP 894 mb
I. 12 C/ 3058 m
J. 20 C/ 3028 m
K. 15 C/ NA
L. CLOSED WALL
M. C4
N. 12345/ 7
O. 0.02 / 1 nm
P. AF300 0824A WILMA OB 11
MAX FL WIND 128 KT N QUAD 18:05:40 Z
SLP EXTRAP FROM 700 MB
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#523 Postby vaffie » Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:27 pm

If they reported 152 knot flight level winds and a 900 mb pressure--in the early afternoon--at the diurnal maximum--in the middle of an eyewall replacement cycle--I can't see how that could be good news at all. Just wait another six hours and then say it's good news. Considering the circumstances of an ERC and still CAT 5 winds, I can't see how this could be good.
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#524 Postby jax » Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:28 pm

[quote="Team Ragnarok"]That's about 136 kt/157 MPH surface. Still a 5.


152 x .8 = 121 kts

121 kts = 138 mph mid level cat 4 right?
am i doinf something wrong?
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#525 Postby jax » Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:30 pm

[quote="Team Ragnarok"]That's about 136 kt/157 MPH surface. Still a 5.


152 x .8 = 121 kts

121 kts = 138 mph mid level cat 4 right?
am i doinf something wrong?
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#526 Postby Brent » Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:32 pm

894 mb... WOW. Lower than the NHC estimated. 894 mb is in no way a Cat 4.
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#527 Postby Brent » Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:34 pm

90% reduction...

152 kt=136.8 kt
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#528 Postby Brent » Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:35 pm

URNT12 KNHC 191822 CCA
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 19/18:06:20Z
B. 17 deg 24 min N
083 deg 23 min W
C. 700 mb 2149 m
D. 75 kt
E. 29 deg 008 nm
F. 111 deg 128 kt
G. 023 deg 002 nm
H. 892 mb :eek:
I. 12 C/ 3058 m
J. 20 C/ 3028 m
K. 15 C/ NA
L. CLOSED WALL
M. C4
N. 12345/ 7
O. 0.02 / 1 nm
P. AF300 0824A WILMA OB 11 CCA
MAX FL WIND 128 KT N QUAD 18:05:40 Z
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#529 Postby jax » Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:38 pm

[quote="Team Ragnarok"]That's about 136 kt/157 MPH surface. Still a 5.


152 x .8 = 121 kts at surface

121 kts = 138 mph at surface mid level Cat 4 right?
did i do something wrong?
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#530 Postby cjrciadt » Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:38 pm

892mb and 160mph sustained? WTH!!!!!!!!!
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#531 Postby Brent » Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:39 pm

jax wrote:
Team Ragnarok wrote:That's about 136 kt/157 MPH surface. Still a 5.


152 x .8 = 121 kts at surface

121 kts = 138 mph at surface mid level Cat 4 right?
did i do something wrong?


90 PERCENT reduction.

Not 80.
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#532 Postby Brent » Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:40 pm

jax wrote:
Team Ragnarok wrote:That's about 136 kt/157 MPH surface. Still a 5.


152 x .8 = 121 kts at surface

121 kts = 138 mph at surface mid level Cat 4 right?
did i do something wrong?


90 PERCENT reduction.

Not 80.
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#533 Postby Normandy » Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:42 pm

Heh.
You know a hurricane is unbelievable when its pressure is that of the Labor Day storm while its undergoing its ERC.
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#534 Postby jpigott » Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:46 pm

1st vortex had 894 extrap, 2nd vortex 892. Either they missed the lowest pressure on the 1st pass (most likely??) or Wilma is deepening again :eek: And am i reading this vortex right when it says the eye is only 1 mile wide? If so, that's just crazy
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#535 Postby TreasureIslandFLGal » Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:48 pm

going through an erc and that pressure?!

there is very warm water and no shear ahead for at least another day. I bet Wilma surpasses her earlier 882! When she finishes the eyewall replacement and can start winding up again... look out!

We are truly witnessing history folks. Who ever would ahve imagined we would be lookign at a strom like this... let alone for the 3rd or 4th time in a season. And most of all... don't forget we are talking about WILMA here!
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#536 Postby milankovitch » Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:52 pm

jpigott wrote:1st vortex had 894 extrap, 2nd vortex 892. Either they missed the lowest pressure on the 1st pass (most likely??) or Wilma is deepening again :eek: And am i reading this vortex right when it says the eye is only 1 mile wide? If so, that's just crazy


894 probably missed the lowest pressure the 900mb at 2pm was just a sattelite estimate. M. C4 tells you that the eye is 4 miles wide.
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#537 Postby wxwatcher91 » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:01 pm

can someone post the link to the recon info on the tropicalupdate website?

Thanks!
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#538 Postby artist » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:03 pm

http://www.tropicalupdate.com is the main page - look to the left for the link
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#539 Postby txwatcher91 » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:04 pm

wxwatcher91 wrote:can someone post the link to the recon info on the tropicalupdate website?

Thanks!


I don't have that website, but I have this one. This is like the one cycloneye uses to post the recon info.

http://asp1.sbs.ohio-state.edu/text/sta ... XXX50.KNHC

Here is one for vortex messages.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/reconlist.shtml
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#540 Postby wxwatcher91 » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:06 pm

thanks you two!
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