Hurricane Wilma Recon Discussion Thread

bigmoney755 · #761 Postby **bigmoney755** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:13 am

does it still have a double wind maximum, or was that people just being paranoid?

bigmoney755 · #762 Postby **bigmoney755** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:33 am

those cold cloud tops have now completly circled the eye and they eye is cloud free. I guess it just had not finished erc last pass.

Matt-hurricanewatcher · #763 Postby **Matt-hurricanewatcher** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:36 am

bigmoney755 wrote:those cold cloud tops have now completly circled the eye and they eye is cloud free. I guess it just had not finished erc last pass.

She sure is impressive to me....She looks very powerful.

SamSagnella · #764 Postby **SamSagnella** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:38 am

bigmoney755 wrote:does it still have a double wind maximum, or was that people just being paranoid?

Okay...first of all, I'm not sure what you mean when you say 'paranoid,' but there was a double wind maxima in the NE quadrant.

0447. 2006N 08537W 03050 5083 126 112 078 078 116 02972 0000000000
0456. 1943N 08553W 03065 5340 115 124 090 090 128 02731 0000000000
~ Thirty miles apart.

There was a double wind maxima in the SW quadrant...
0508. 1905N 08614W 03052 5279 304 109 126 116 110 02778 0000000000
0517. 1850N 08636W 03051 5086 314 096 076 076 097 02971 0000000000
~30 miles apart...

and now theyre travelling NW, where they'll likely find a double wind maxima in the SE and NW quads too.

bigmoney755 · #765 Postby **bigmoney755** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:48 am

sorry didnt mean to offend anyone I was just curious.

JamesFromMaine2 · #766 Postby **JamesFromMaine2** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:52 am

130kt VDM coming soon!

SamSagnella · #767 Postby **SamSagnella** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:53 am

JamesFromMaine2 wrote:130kt VDM coming soon!

Wasn't it 128kt before? Shows little change in the last hour or so.

Wirbelsturm · #768 Postby **Wirbelsturm** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:54 am

just might it be strengthening afterall? That was supposedly the weaker quadrant?

mtm4319 · #769 Postby **mtm4319** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:54 am

SamSagnella wrote:
JamesFromMaine2 wrote:130kt VDM coming soon!

Wasn't it 128kt before? Shows little change in the last hour or so.

They were going in different quadrants. If that was the SE quadrant (which I think it was), then it seems to be getting a bit stronger. The vortex data message will be a better indicator.

Matt-hurricanewatcher · #770 Postby **Matt-hurricanewatcher** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:55 am

Blacks around wraping around the eye. Its getting stronger!

bigmoney755 · #771 Postby **bigmoney755** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:56 am

that dark brown color that was present when wilma made her run to #1 is back!
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html

SamSagnella · #772 Postby **SamSagnella** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:00 am

With Wilma, windspeeds do not appear to be an accurate representation of her strength due to the double wind maxima (also seen with Rita). It takes a similar amount of energy to maintain two areas (rings) of 130kt wind than it does to maintain one wind maximum of a much greater strength. If Wilma had only the standard structure of one wind maximum in the eyewall, we would undoubtedly see winds similar to those we saw last night -- 150kt or so.

jpigott · #773 Postby **jpigott** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:00 am

929mb, on the way back down?

JamesFromMaine2 · #774 Postby **JamesFromMaine2** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:01 am

069
URNT12 KNHC 210516
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 21/05:01:20Z
B. 19 deg 26 min N
086 deg 02 min W
C. 700 mb 2477 m
D. NA kt
E. NA deg nm
F. 116 deg 128 kt
G. 28 deg 019 nm
H. 930 mb
I. 10 C/ 3051 m
J. 20 C/ 3054 m
K. 9 C/ NA
L. CLOSED
M. C35
N. 12345/ 7
O. 0.02 / 1 nm
P. AF306 1324A WILMA OB 09
MAX FL WIND 128 KT NE QUAD 04:55:50 Z

430
URNT12 KNHC 210657
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 21/06:44:30Z
B. 19 deg 36 min N
086 deg 05 min W
C. 700 mb 2469 m
D. NA kt
E. NA deg nm
F. 220 deg 130 kt
G. 135 deg 018 nm
H. 929 mb
I. 10 C/ 3055 m
J. 18 C/ 3051 m
K. 11 C/ NA
L. CLOSED
M. C30
N. 12345/ 7
O. 0.02 / 1 nm
P. AF306 1324A WILMA OB 16
MAX FL WIND 130 KT SE QUAD 06:39:10 Z

jpigott · #775 Postby **jpigott** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:05 am

also of note is that Wilma has traveled 10min north and only 3min west bwtn vortex messages. That's definetly a NNW motion

#776 Postby **jlauderdal** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:14 am

jpigott wrote:also of note is that Wilma has traveled 10min north and only 3min west bwtn vortex messages. That's definetly a NNW motion

last few frames looks due N or even I hate to say it because i dont usually post wbbles but nne, are we seeing the bounce effect like we saw with Ivan when it bounced off the southern coast of jamaica and avoided land, hurricanes hate land and this would love nothing more than to hit that loop current off to the north, something to look for here

jpigott · #777 Postby **jpigott** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:17 am

are we going to get another vortex message with this flight or was that the last one

JamesFromMaine2 · #778 Postby **JamesFromMaine2** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:19 am

I think we will get atleast one more I am not sure though

bigmoney755 · #779 Postby **bigmoney755** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:21 am

good grief the convection on the west side has taken off. That takes care of that dry air for now.

mtm4319 · #780 Postby **mtm4319** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:27 am

Starting back toward the center now.

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