Hurricane Wilma Recon Discussion Thread

[Brent]

CLOUD CURVATURE DEVELOPING WITHIN EYE. STORM SHOWING MORE TILT FROM FLIGHT LEVEL TO SURFACE

What do they mean by that? Debbie

OK I follow recon for wind and position purposes but what the heck does this mean.

Probably because it's acclerating NE... that and shear.

[dixiebreeze]

I know officially it's not, but it almost appears to be trending straight north when looking at visable IR.

[shorrock]

I Think you can pick up the extreme eye side on long range out of key west.
if you flip back and forth between La Bajada and the Key west loop it appears to be the same.

Just remember the rules about radar, at that point i think you are looking at the flight level of the planes (curvature of the earth and all)

or am I smoking the rainbow flavored crack? Seriously. Trying to figure this out.

[jkt21787]

I *think* the NOAA plane just recored 111 kt FL winds. Trying to make sure...

Edit...Maybe not. The NOAA plane obs are in a different format. I don't know how to convert it as easily. Can anyone confirm what its reporting?

[tracyswfla]

I *think* the NOAA plane just recored 111 kt FL winds. Trying to make sure...

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

If its at .9 reduce level then she is 114.8 mph at the surface.

[WindRunner]

I *think* the NOAA plane just recored 111 kt FL winds. Trying to make sure...

Edit...Maybe not. The NOAA plane obs are in a different format. I don't know how to convert it as easily. Can anyone confirm what its reporting?

No, it's not 111kts. Look in the column just to the left, with 6 digits. That has direction (first three) and speed(second three).

[cycloneye]

193030 2341 08538 12306 -0279 038049 +111 +034 038050 057 001


Here it is j

[storms in NC]

If its at .9 reduce level then she is 114.8 mph at the surface.

Hummmmmm

[jkt21787]

I *think* the NOAA plane just recored 111 kt FL winds. Trying to make sure...

Edit...Maybe not. The NOAA plane obs are in a different format. I don't know how to convert it as easily. Can anyone confirm what its reporting?

No, it's not 111kts. Look in the column just to the left, with 6 digits. That has direction (first three) and speed(second three).

Got it. Thanks. Sorry folks.

[cycloneye]

Disregard what I posted above.

[tracyswfla]

Disregard what I posted above.

what??

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

I expected this storm to restrengthen back to a cat3...Looks like I get to taste the rare Crow.

[swimaster20]

I expected this storm to restrengthen back to a cat3...Looks like I get to taste the rare Crow.

I wouldn't make a conclusion so quick if I were you.....

[storms in NC]

If its at .9 reduce level then she is 114.8 mph at the surface.

Matt it is okay. i got jumped badly earlyer when I was looking at the recon I had see 96k and jumped to it was surface. We all make mistakes. I did and I know better. But I am worried about my kids that live in Ft Myers. so We all are a little jumpy

[Brent]

You always reduce(90% for this storm) from the wind observations posted here...

[cycloneye]

URNT12 KNHC 232053
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 23/20:30:10Z
B. 23 deg 34 min N
085 deg 03 min W
C. 700 mb 2760 m
D. NA kt
E. deg nm
F. 144 deg 088 kt
G. 044 deg 052 nm
H. 959 mb
I. 8 C/ 3055 m
J. 15 C/ 3048 m
K. 13 C/ NA
L. CLOSED
M. C45
N. 12345/ 7
O. 0.03 / 2 nm
P. AF304 2124A WILMA OB 32
MAX FL WIND 96 KT SE QUAD 17:16:40 Z



2 less millibars from last vortex.

[milankovitch]

Wow a 7C temp gradient, fairly impresive. Just might reach cat3 afterall.

[WindRunner]

Air Force heading home now.

[Solaris]

NOAA plane just found 101 kts