Gulf Coast Snow and Hurricanes Revisited

[HouTXmetro]

Is there any correlation? Keep in mind we saw record snow fall on the entire Texas and Louisana coast last winter. Look at the Hurricane Season followed. What can we conclude?

[vbhoutex]

this was addressed in another thread, but I don't remember that there wa any conclusion drawn. If there is one that can be drawn without long detailed research it would be that we had one hell of a GOM Hurricane season right after record Gulf coast snows, but that Texas except for SE TX was spared any storms.

[Javlin]

I tried to obtain snow precipitation amounts and years and it seems the data is hard to come by.1985 was a snow year here along the coast I believe.Then we had one in about 95 my son was young and I remember him outside(maybe1/4-1/3').Both seasons afterward had some GOM activity.But I also located a year in the 70's that Lindaloo brought up and I have pictures some where weak GOM season followed.At best just maybe an indicator for now definitly not conclusive.

[vbhoutex]

I tried to obtain snow precipitation amounts and years and it seems the data is hard to come by.1985 was a snow year here along the coast I believe.Then we had one in about 95 my son was young and I remember him outside(maybe1/4-1/3').Both seasons afterward had some GOM activity.But I also located a year in the 70's that Lindaloo brought up and I have pictures some where weak GOM season followed.At best just maybe an indicator for now definitly not conclusive.

Nothing that I know of has ever correlated the Gulf Coast winter vs GOM 'canes. I know 1973 was a very snowy winter(at least in Houston) with 3 different snow events in Jan and Feb. I don't remember nor have I researched the 'cane season following it. I do know that in '69-'70 winter there was at least one ice storm in Houston because I was slip sliding in it and that was the year after Camille. I do not remember any significant winter weather in the P'cola area the winter of '69 before Camille(I came to Houston in 1969 after graduating high school).

[Ivanhater]

I tried to obtain snow precipitation amounts and years and it seems the data is hard to come by.1985 was a snow year here along the coast I believe.Then we had one in about 95 my son was young and I remember him outside(maybe1/4-1/3').Both seasons afterward had some GOM activity.But I also located a year in the 70's that Lindaloo brought up and I have pictures some where weak GOM season followed.At best just maybe an indicator for now definitly not conclusive.

Nothing that I know of has ever correlated the Gulf Coast winter vs GOM 'canes. I know 1973 was a very snowy winter(at least in Houston) with 3 different snow events in Jan and Feb. I don't remember nor have I researched the 'cane season following it. I do know that in '69-'70 winter there was at least one ice storm in Houston because I was slip sliding in it and that was the year after Camille. I do not remember any significant winter weather in the P'cola area the winter of '69 before Camille(I came to Houston in 1969 after graduating high school).

hey vb, you used to live in the p'cola area?

[vbhoutex]

I graduated from Woodham High School!!! I grew up in gulf Breeze. to say the least I know the area well.

[Ivanhater]

I graduated from Woodham High School!!! I grew up in gulf Breeze. to say the least I know the area well.

wow, my dad graduated from woodham!, i went to tate high school...small world!

[Ivanhater]

did you get my pm reply vb?, for some reason it puts it in my save box

[vbhoutex]

did you get my pm reply vb?, for some reason it puts it in my save box

yep got it and replied.

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

My Heavy Snows and Gulf Hurricanes THEORY:

If global warming occurs significantly:

A short-lived arctic outbreak will occur along with severe
hurricane seasons that would follow. Global warming would
create short-lived but very severe cold outbreaks followed by
severe hurricane outbreaks...as a vicious cycle of extreme weather
in mother nature's attempt to bring EXCESS cold air to balance excess
heat and create excess hurricanes to balance excess heat.

It's too early to tell if this may explain the heavy arctic outbreak with
snow in Texas followed by the monster hurricane season. We
will have to watch the next few years.

[decgirl66]

vbhoutex.............I LOVE your avatar! That is so funny!

[vbhoutex]

My Heavy Snows and Gulf Hurricanes THEORY:

If global warming occurs significantly:

A short-lived arctic outbreak will occur along with severe
hurricane seasons that would follow. Global warming would
create short-lived but very severe cold outbreaks followed by
severe hurricane outbreaks...as a vicious cycle of extreme weather
in mother nature's attempt to bring EXCESS cold air to balance excess
heat and create excess hurricanes to balance excess heat.

It's too early to tell if this may explain the heavy arctic outbreak with
snow in Texas followed by the monster hurricane season. We
will have to watch the next few years.

Interesting theory without getting into the global warming debate.

[jeff]

The outbreak of arctic air that helped result in the "great" snow storm of 2004 was not anything out of the ordinary. No low temp. records were set and temps. were in the low 30's and upper 20's during the snow event.

As far as winter precip. correlating with hurricane landfalls on the Gulf coast, I have not looked into it but may in the upcoming months. I did look into dry Spring and Summer months in TX and landfalling hurricanes on the TX coast and found some correlation that drier Spring periods may be followed by landfalling hurricanes on the TX coast. I posted this back in May. This correlation matched this year for Hou, Gals, Corpus, and Brownsville with the landfall of Rita near the state line and near miss with Emily south of Brownsville. All 4 of those sites had below average rainfall during the Mar-May period of 2005.

[Javlin]

The outbreak of arctic air that helped result in the "great" snow storm of 2004 was not anything out of the ordinary. No low temp. records were set and temps. were in the low 30's and upper 20's during the snow event.

As far as winter precip. correlating with hurricane landfalls on the Gulf coast, I have not looked into it but may in the upcoming months. I did look into dry Spring and Summer months in TX and landfalling hurricanes on the TX coast and found some correlation that drier Spring periods may be followed by landfalling hurricanes on the TX coast. I posted this back in May. This correlation matched this year for Hou, Gals, Corpus, and Brownsville with the landfall of Rita near the state line and near miss with Emily south of Brownsville. All 4 of those sites had below average rainfall during the Mar-May period of 2005.

When I brought the the possibility of a link between snowfall earlier and a busier GOM that's all it is.I do not think that because we had snow on Chistmas Day(2004) we would have a cane.Just that the maybe a busier GOM SEASON might be in store.Interesting VB that you bring up the fact of snow in Houston(69)(04) so did many others this season also.Maybe just a synoptic pattern nothing more.73 or 74 was a dead season in the GOM.I am tired right now but would someone look up 1954.1954 was the last time the MGC got snow on Christmas Day prior to 2004.Maybe it was a dead GOM year also...and it was looked it up 3 systems TX one cane cat1