Epsilon,Final Comments,Sat Pics

[brunota2003]

200th post in this forum and as of 10 PM EST, Epsilon is still a 75 MPH Hurricane!!!

[Cookiely]

In like a lion and out like a lion. Epsilon is like the little engine that could. I can I can I can become a hurricane in December. The pic is beautiful and we can appreciate it since its not going to hurt anyone (knock on wood).

[CHRISTY]

here's a nice image of the 65th name storm....

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

It is looking more likely that we will see a loop. In maybe have this storm a week from now!

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

Wow thats a nice picture of our December hurricane!!!

[cycloneye]

03/1145 UTC 34.5N 44.9W T4.0/4.0 EPSILON -- Atlantic Ocean


Sat estimates this morning says it's still a hurricane.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

If it looks like a hurricane it is!

[krysof]

amazing that its going to go east then loop back towards the south and southwest, Epsilon may still be tropical and strenghten if it goes southward into warmer waters

[P.K.]

65kts, 987hPa

WHXX01 KWBC 031242
CHGHUR

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO TPC/NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONES.

NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER NORTH ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

HURRICANE EPSILON (AL292005) ON 20051203 1200 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS... ...36 HRS...
051203 1200 051204 0000 051204 1200 051205 0000

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMD 34.5N 45.0W 35.1N 41.8W 35.9N 38.8W 36.8N 36.2W
BAMM 34.5N 45.0W 34.7N 42.4W 34.7N 39.8W 34.6N 37.2W
A98E 34.5N 45.0W 34.6N 42.7W 35.5N 39.9W 35.1N 37.0W
LBAR 34.5N 45.0W 35.2N 42.3W 35.7N 39.6W 35.9N 36.6W
SHIP 65KTS 59KTS 53KTS 46KTS
DSHP 65KTS 59KTS 53KTS 46KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS... ..120 HRS...
051205 1200 051206 1200 051207 1200 051208 1200

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMD 37.9N 34.3W 39.1N 30.6W 36.1N 28.0W 34.2N 32.6W
BAMM 34.4N 35.3W 33.0N 32.7W 29.9N 36.8W 26.7N 43.6W
A98E 35.6N 34.7W 35.3N 30.9W 34.2N 29.8W 31.4N 32.3W
LBAR 36.1N 34.1W 36.2N 29.3W 36.5N 26.4W 34.9N 26.5W
SHIP 40KTS 31KTS 22KTS 0KTS
DSHP 40KTS 31KTS 22KTS 0KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 34.5N LONCUR = 45.0W DIRCUR = 90DEG SPDCUR = 9KT
LATM12 = 34.3N LONM12 = 47.1W DIRM12 = 66DEG SPDM12 = 8KT
LATM24 = 33.3N LONM24 = 48.8W
WNDCUR = 65KT RMAXWD = 15NM WNDM12 = 65KT
CENPRS = 987MB OUTPRS = 1008MB OUTRAD = 250NM SDEPTH = D
RD34NE = 100NM RD34SE = 100NM RD34SW = 100NM RD34NW = 100NM

[JamesFromMaine2]

I wonder if this one has the NHC lost as to what its doing? lol It became a Hurricane even when the NHC was forcasting weaking even though they did say it could still become a hurricane. then it becomes a hurricane at 11am yesterday I believe it was and the NHC has been forcasting weakening every time since then but it still has yet to do so! lol also it hasn't been following the track the NHC forcasted! lol

[Jim Hughes]

I wonder if this one has the NHC lost as to what its doing? lol It became a Hurricane even when the NHC was forcasting weaking even though they did say it could still become a hurricane. then it becomes a hurricane at 11am yesterday I believe it was and the NHC has been forcasting weakening every time since then but it still has yet to do so! lol also it hasn't been following the track the NHC forcasted! lol

The NHC may have made some statements similar to above early on but they stopped making them in their 10 pm EST discussion on December 1st. They had it peaking at 55 kts. They also had it becoming extra tropical sometime today. They did NOT forecast Epsilon to become a hurricane in the above discussion and it became one the next morning. BTW maybe does not cut it anyway.

So we are talking about a December hurricane, that is in the North Atlantic , with cooler SST's around . (But everyone is trying to find that warm patch _NOW_ )

Here is the bottom line. The conservatives, who are non space weather believers, are still trying to find a conventional meteorological reason for why this storm is still surviving instead of even considering what I have been talking about all summer. Talk about denial....


Jim

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

I believe that the sun can control alot of weather on earth. In maybe the sun spots can have power over the hurricanes. It is weird in I agree it could very will be the sun. But this is new in people are just trying to fall back on old stuff.

[jusforsean]

Hey Jim,
Where can I learn more about this space weather stuff, does it effect our pressure ect directly I wonder if it has an effect on us as people like when the pressure drops during a storm?

[cjrciadt]

Hey, as long as it remains out there, let it roar, let it stay out there forever even if it becomes a Cat 5 with a pressure of 860 millibars, that wouldnt hurt my feelings none. I can see it now, the year 2100, And Hurricane Epsilon continues to make its loops, this hurricane started in Nov 2005, its almost 100 years old...That just goes to show you how weird the 2005 season was...

I'm starting to believe you!!!!

[jusforsean]

if epsilon makes a loop "oh my " does the cold weather protect the east coast? i know the carribean is suppose to become favorable next week ? the only model run i can see is the gfdl the others arent working are they not using them or is it my link?

[jusforsean]

amazing just when i think i can lay off the board a little i am back in obsessed wit the trpics mode in the middle of dec, if i check the board christmas morning now that will be insane!!!

[cjrciadt]

[Weatherfreak14]

Whew, what an eye

[cycloneye]

WTNT34 KNHC 031441
TCPAT4
BULLETIN
HURRICANE EPSILON ADVISORY NUMBER 17
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 AM AST SAT DEC 03 2005

...TENACIOUS EPSILON REFUSES TO WEAKEN...BUT FORECAST TO DO SO...



Look how Avila starts the 11 AM AST advisory.A very interesting system indeed and tenasious as he says.

[AZS]