Hurricane modification?

[WindRunner]

Where would we be if we ignored Orville Wright or Pascal or Bernoulli.

I've decided to re-enter the debate without ignoring.

Your idea is well-meant; however, you have not answered to counter the problems of huge cost, effecient management of the pipes, and the potentially bad effects on marine ecosystems and possible backfires of your system if it gets running.

Well put, CVW. I'd like to here an answer to the cost and environment solutions myself.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

Also about the quastion on starting a new ice age. HECK I would like a few feet of snow. But I don't went to see 6 billion people dead.

[MiamiensisWx]

cyclonekiller, do you have any good ideas on how to operate the system in an efficient, environmentally-friendly and inconsequental way and how to deal with the cost?

IMPORTANT: Note the emphasis on "good".

[cyclonekiller]

Why not just IGNORE?

Wow, what an exotic idea!

THIS IS IMPORTANT.

Sorry, time didn't allow me to see that before I pointed out more flaws in this plan. However, we are allowing him to try and defend his idea, and if anything I would consider him a potential developer of this solution, and we are just trying to work the kinks out. I don't think he's a troll.

Well thank you wild runner! I never intended to be one. How about some one here emailing the hurricane center to see if they heard of my idea. I bet you will be surprised.

[Duffy]

i am against Weather/Hurricane Modification..we shouldn't be playing God....if something goes wrong, you don't know what will happen...it could be even WORSE than what you started with
I mean no disrepect towards the Victims of Hurricanes when i say this, but tracking them and seeing how strong they get and watch them set records, it would take the fun out of it.....you'd have no more Tropical Legends or anything like that...it would get kinda boring
So i am totally against it....i ran a poll last year on here, on this and overwhelmingly the people said they were against any type of Weather Modification
Thats my take on it

[Air Force Met]

Well thank you wild runner! I never intended to be one. How about some one here emailing the hurricane center to see if they heard of my idea. I bet you will be surprised.

How about you telling me who you talked to...and I will talk to them myself and see what they say...including about the 10 day forecast (which is not happening anytime soon BTW...7 days is still a few years away).

Give me a name and I wil verify it and get their impression.

[MiamiensisWx]

Your idea may have good potential, cyclonekiller, and I know it is meant in a positive way. However, how are you going to counter the cost? Also, how will you run the system without it having a backfire on the weather and without it creating environmental consequences?

I am interested in hearing your thoughts.

i am against Weather/Hurricane Modification..we shouldn't be playing God....if something goes wrong, you don't know what will happen...it could be even WORSE than what you started with
I mean no disrepect towards the Victims of Hurricanes when i say this, but tracking them and seeing how strong they get and watch them set records, it would take the fun out of it.....you'd have no more Tropical Legends or anything like that...it would get kinda boring
So i am totally against it....i ran a poll last year on here, on this and overwhelmingly the people said they were against any type of Weather Modification
Thats my take on it

How will you answer the problem highlighted in bold?

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

It would take a 100 years to build
It would cost tens of trillions
It would likely cause at less a Mini ice age
All this for some one to build next to the ocean? Is it worth 10 million or maybe 100 million lives. Or maybe even Billions. Your idea doe's not hold water at all in you would be laughed out of the nhc for it.

Its to risky
To costly
In just plain doe's not work

[WindRunner]

The way some people interpret things . . .

[MiamiensisWx]

cyclonekiller, can you answer my questions? I am interested.

[cyclonekiller]

cyclonekiller, do you have any good ideas on how to operate the system in an efficient, environmentally-friendly and inconsequental way and how to deal with the cost?

IMPORTANT: Note the emphasis on "good".

Sure. Since the flow through the tunnels can be regulated by use of a gate near the surface downstream temperatures can be regulated.It is similar to flood gate control of the everglades. Also, a traveling screen can be installed to filter any contaminates seaweed or sealife before the water turbine blades. The screen returns the sealife back to the ocean and nothing dies just as powerplants do today. It will pay for itself in five years since it also generates 75 thousand megawatts of energy enough power for 22 million people.

[Air Force Met]

cyclonekiller, can you answer my questions? I am interested.

No he can't...not in a scientific way. The only answer you will get will be like this ... "Oh...it won't be a problem..."

And I still want to know how we will know 8 days in advance that we have to turn it on. We won't. We'll be turning it on like by 5 year old opens the back door. All the time.

[MiamiensisWx]

Sure. Since the flow through the tunnels can be regulated by use of a gate near the surface downstream temperatures can be regulated.It is similar to flood gate control of the everglades. Also, a traveling screen can be installed to filter any contaminates seaweed or sealife before the water turbine blades. The screen returns the sealife back to the ocean and nothing dies just as powerplants do today. It will pay for itself in five years since it also generates 75 thousand megawatts of energy enough power for 22 million people.

What about the effects of changing seawater temperature on marine life? Also, what about the potential backfires of your system on weather (e.g., it eliminates one weather problem but creates new ones)?

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

cyclonekiller, do you have any good ideas on how to operate the system in an efficient, environmentally-friendly and inconsequental way and how to deal with the cost?

IMPORTANT: Note the emphasis on "good".

Sure. Since the flow through the tunnels can be regulated by use of a gate near the surface downstream temperatures can be regulated.It is similar to flood gate control of the everglades. Also, a traveling screen can be installed to filter any contaminates seaweed or sealife before the water turbine blades. The screen returns the sealife back to the ocean and nothing dies just as powerplants do today. It will pay for itself in five years since it also generates 75 thousand megawatts of energy enough power for 22 million people.

In how are you going to get the senate of the United states to sign on to thousands of these things? Thats trillions my friends. You need money in man power or nothing is going to get done!

[Air Force Met]

IMPORTANT: Note the emphasis on "good".

Sure. Since the flow through the tunnels can be regulated by use of a gate near the surface downstream temperatures can be regulated.It is similar to flood gate control of the everglades. Also, a traveling screen can be installed to filter any contaminates seaweed or sealife before the water turbine blades. The screen returns the sealife back to the ocean and nothing dies just as powerplants do today. It will pay for itself in five years since it also generates 75 thousand megawatts of energy enough power for 22 million people.[/quote]

OK...here is your challenge AGAIN.

Tell us HOW this only costs 10 Billion. Spell it out. Sell it.

You are really BAD at answering questions...you know that?

And tell me the name of the NHC person so I can verify.

[cyclonekiller]

IMPORTANT: Note the emphasis on "good".

Sure. Since the flow through the tunnels can be regulated by use of a gate near the surface downstream temperatures can be regulated.It is similar to flood gate control of the everglades. Also, a traveling screen can be installed to filter any contaminates seaweed or sealife before the water turbine blades. The screen returns the sealife back to the ocean and nothing dies just as powerplants do today. It will pay for itself in five years since it also generates 75 thousand megawatts of energy enough power for 22 million people.

OK...here is your challenge AGAIN.

Tell us HOW this only costs 10 Billion. Spell it out. Sell it.

You are really BAD at answering questions...you know that?

And tell me the name of the NHC person so I can verify.[/quote]

Actually, I'd like to show you the email but they won't let me here. I don't lie.

[DoctorHurricane2003]

This thread/conversation/argument =

[Air Force Met]

Actually, I'd like to show you the email but they won't let me here. I don't lie.

You can PM it to me...I'm sure the mods will not have a problem with that.

But you can give me the name on the board. There is not an issue with that. We talk about the names of NHC staff all the time. Give me the name.

And stop giving incomplete answers. Give a total cost estimate of the project and how you arrive at 10B. Give total weights. Lengths. Labor. All of it. Give me how you came up with the number of tubes needed to take the temp down.

[WindRunner]

That's where this prototype should go: recycling can! Just too many fundamental problems with the idea, specifically the monetary and envrionmental. Now, if you care to explain these, then we might get it to work. Otherwise,

[cyclonekiller]

Air Force Met
What is your email I'll send you a copy of it.