How long will it take?

[hurricanetrack]

When will the media call it "The forecast from Klotzbach" and not Dr. Gray?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/12/07/h ... index.html

After all, Philip is the primary author....yes?

[cycloneye]

You are right Mark about the media taking only about Dr Gray but not about who wrote almost all of it.I blame myself for not including Philip Klotzbach at sticky thread as I forgot but is now up there where he has to be.

[P.K.]

You are right Mark about the media taking only about Dr Gray but not about who wrote almost all of it.I blame myself for not including Philip Klotzbach at sticky thread as I forgot but is now up there where he has to be.

I did point this out the other day in this thread.

[HURAKAN]

It's too difficult to pronounce!!! But it's true, he should also take some credit, unfortunately, Dr. Gray is the world-famous here and not him! With time I think he would start getting more credit from the media.

[Jim Hughes]

But it's true, he should also take some credit,

I think if you have been reading in between the lines the past 2-3 years you may have noticed that Phil has been the leader in coming up with these new long term forecasting schemes.

Some of the previous forecasting variables went wayside after the AMO flipped, like the eastern QBO. These long range forecasts have gotten much less conservative when you look at the past few years.

The new forecasting variables have always totaled up, or pointed towards a much more active season. Some of the old schemes may not have done this.

Now there will probably come a day when they over estimate what the actual season ends up being but they seem to be more attuned to what is currently going on.

It is of my opinon that they will always have to modify these variables depending upon which certin elements are present.



Jim

[hurricanetrack]

Duke has "Coach K".

Now hurricane season forecasting has "Phil K".

That's the best I can come up with and still mention Duke in a post!

[Derek Ortt]

its because Klotzbach is a research associate. Typically, they receive less attention than the faculty, research scientists (difference between a research associate and a scientist is that a research associate works for a prof, while a research scientist is basically a professor who does not teach classes), and in some cases, even the grad students

[hurricanetrack]

So, do we still call it the "Dr. Gray Forecast"? I always refer to it as "the forecast from Dr. Gray and his staff" or something along those lines.

I just want to see Philip get the recognition from the media- I suppose he will in time.

[Jim Hughes]

its because Klotzbach is a research associate. Typically, they receive less attention than the faculty, research scientists (difference between a research associate and a scientist is that a research associate works for a prof, while a research scientist is basically a professor who does not teach classes), and in some cases, even the grad students

I already know what the difference is between an associate and a scientist. Once again. This has nothing to do with that here. He is receiving less attention because certain people and organizations are doing this over politics. Ego's ....They want Phil to keep his place in the ranks compared to where they are.

It should be about his accomplishments and not his title. We have an "Excellent" young college forecaster around here in the tropical analysis forum. You know NEXRAD.

Jay is an outstanding forecaster and I would never take his forecast lightly just because he does not have a degree yet. Anyone who has followed or read NEXRAD's discussions already knows that he is already at the level of the so called experts. If not further. This kid has a great future.

John Q public, who backs up 99% of research, through tax dollars , higher insurance costs... which than goes towards research, likes to see results and this thing about the king and queens title is for the fairy tale books.


Jim