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#321 Postby Portastorm » Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:38 pm

Good read ... thanks CC!
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#322 Postby jasons2k » Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:46 pm

gboudx wrote:jschlitz, my gas and electric bills don't need it either. I wrapped my water heater with a water heater blanket, and now need to make sure my windows are caulked, and door seals are in good shape. My house was cold this morning, but maybe since it was 10 outside, that had something to do with it.


Yeah, that's cold even for DFW. Spent many years up there and never saw the teens.
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#323 Postby f5 » Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:41 pm

the low on my thermometer read 11.1 degrees.I live out in the country where there is no asphalt or concrete.just trees and cow pastures
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#324 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:42 pm

the 12Z Dec. 10th run of the GFS shows another burst of arctic air coming in just before Christmas and brings snow/sleet/frz. rain to the area on Christmas eve! The only real difference from last year is that the GFS keeps most of the precip. north of south Texas around the Houston area! This is VERY far out, and the GFS will probably flip-flop, but the fact that there is chance is exciting. Just think...2 weeks ago we were talking about the "Chance" of an extreme cold event and winter weather in Texas, and 2 days ago it happened. Lows hit -3 in Amarillo, 9 in Fort Worth and even 16 in Waco. The high in Houston only hit 34-37 on Thursday, and even Brownsville struggled to get out of the 30s that day. Could the GFS be onto something again? Joe Bastardi mentioned the chance of widespread cold between Dec. 20th and Dec. 30th...so this may not be a far-fetched idea.
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#325 Postby Kludge » Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:01 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:the 12Z Dec. 10th run of the GFS shows another burst of arctic air coming in just before Christmas and brings snow/sleet/frz. rain to the area on Christmas eve! The only real difference from last year is that the GFS keeps most of the precip. north of south Texas around the Houston area!


Let's hope it plays out this way! I was very happy for the folks near the coast last year...but it was very frustrating to see all of those radar echoes on our house at Christmas, only to have it turn out to be only virga. Mind you, I'm not complaining...the thought that snow happened (and could potentially happen for a second year in a row) south of I-20 in Texas is still incredible. It's so fantastic to have it feel like Christmas. Fingers crossed. Hang in there, GFS.
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#326 Postby jasons2k » Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:25 am

When I lived in Dallas, I *always* prayed for the cold & snow. But now that I live in Houston and have a lot of tender plants in the yard, I wish it would go away. I don't want to lose my landscaping. I'm ready for spring :-)
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#327 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:56 am

The latest 6Z run (Dec. 11th) now has the arctic air/wintery weather coming in a little earlier. It now shows it arriving on Dec. 20/21st. It still has the same general idea as yesterday though. Looks promising, especially if we begin to see more run-to-run consistancy. It also fits with JBs idea of a widespread cold snap between the 20th and 30th.
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#328 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:42 pm

Joe Bastardi announced in his latest post that he thinks there will be a SIGNIFICANT snow/ice threat as far south as southern Texas and as far east as Mobile coming up this next weekend into next week. He mentioned that this could rival the Christmas storm last year and that much of the nation east of the rockies could be sent into a "deep freeze" during the week of the 19th. Lots to watch! He was right about the last spell..so there is a good chance he will be right about this one.
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#329 Postby WhiteShirt » Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:45 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:Joe Bastardi announced in his latest post that he thinks there will be a SIGNIFICANT snow/ice threat as far south as southern Texas and as far east as Mobile coming up this next weekend into next week. He mentioned that this could rival the Christmas storm last year and that much of the nation east of the rockies could be sent into a "deep freeze" during the week of the 19th. Lots to watch! He was right about the last spell..so there is a good chance he will be right about this one.


How far south in southern Texas? Does this include the Houston area? This is for the weekend before Christmas?
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#330 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:57 pm

I do not know the specifics, I am just relating what Joe Bastardi is saying. He says that he is worried about snow and ice to south texas this upcoming weekend. He says the storm could be similar to last years christmas storm. So basically, that means that snow would be a threat to Houston, Corpus Christi and even Brownsville. There is still a lot to watch and the specifics will come later, but as of now it looks like there will be at least a risk of an arctic outbreak with the possibility of snow in 7-10 days.
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#331 Postby WhiteShirt » Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:04 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:I do not know the specifics, I am just relating what Joe Bastardi is saying. He says that he is worried about snow and ice to south texas this upcoming weekend. He says the storm could be similar to last years christmas storm. So basically, that means that snow would be a threat to Houston, Corpus Christi and even Brownsville. There is still a lot to watch and the specifics will come later, but as of now it looks like there will be at least a risk of an arctic outbreak with the possibility of snow in 7-10 days.


Sounds great!! Thanks!
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#332 Postby cajungal » Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:11 pm

Yes, indeed! I hope that holds true. Having a white Christmas 2 years in a row here would break the record books! Even seeing any snow 2 years in a row on any given day in the winter is extremly rare. I am 29, and it has only snowed here 3 times my whole life. February of 1988, December of 1989, and last Christmas.
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#333 Postby f5 » Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:13 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:I do not know the specifics, I am just relating what Joe Bastardi is saying. He says that he is worried about snow and ice to south texas this upcoming weekend. He says the storm could be similar to last years christmas storm. So basically, that means that snow would be a threat to Houston, Corpus Christi and even Brownsville. There is still a lot to watch and the specifics will come later, but as of now it looks like there will be at least a risk of an arctic outbreak with the possibility of snow in 7-10 days.


Barstidi worried about snow.i'm not worried.he should be worried about a CAT 5 making a direct hit on Houston but thats a whole other discussion
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#334 Postby JenyEliza » Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:34 pm

f5 wrote:
Extremeweatherguy wrote:I do not know the specifics, I am just relating what Joe Bastardi is saying. He says that he is worried about snow and ice to south texas this upcoming weekend. He says the storm could be similar to last years christmas storm. So basically, that means that snow would be a threat to Houston, Corpus Christi and even Brownsville. There is still a lot to watch and the specifics will come later, but as of now it looks like there will be at least a risk of an arctic outbreak with the possibility of snow in 7-10 days.


Barstidi worried about snow.i'm not worried.he should be worried about a CAT 5 making a direct hit on Houston but thats a whole other discussion


A Cat 5 hitting Houston in December? :think:
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#335 Postby PTrackerLA » Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:17 pm

Come on it's almost winter let's not talk about cat 5's in the gulf right now! :lol: We all need a LONG break from that.

Anyway hopefully JB is right about another possible snow event. We had snow on new years day two years in a row (1/1/01 and 1/1/02) so stranger things have happened!
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#336 Postby jasons2k » Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:29 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:I do not know the specifics, I am just relating what Joe Bastardi is saying. He says that he is worried about snow and ice to south texas this upcoming weekend. He says the storm could be similar to last years christmas storm. So basically, that means that snow would be a threat to Houston, Corpus Christi and even Brownsville. There is still a lot to watch and the specifics will come later, but as of now it looks like there will be at least a risk of an arctic outbreak with the possibility of snow in 7-10 days.


Bastardi tends to overblow the cold threat to Texas from this far out. But this system is one to be concerned about.
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#337 Postby wxman57 » Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:12 pm

18Z GFS shows nothing - no cold air at all. The GFS is just about completely clueless with the current pattern. It's best to ignore it. Better to follow the trends of the ECMWF, as it did very well with the past Arctic outbreak. Penn State's E-wall has some good graphics:

Current 12Z EC:
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/ECMW ... floop.html

12Z EC 8-10 day mean 500 mb flow comparison with today's 12Z GFS:
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/ECMW ... tcomp.html

00Z EC:
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/ECMW ... floop.html

00Z EC 8-10 day mean 500mb flow comparison with GFS:
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/ECMW ... tcomp.html
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#338 Postby cctxhurricanewatcher » Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:36 pm

jschlitz wrote:
Extremeweatherguy wrote:I do not know the specifics, I am just relating what Joe Bastardi is saying. He says that he is worried about snow and ice to south texas this upcoming weekend. He says the storm could be similar to last years christmas storm. So basically, that means that snow would be a threat to Houston, Corpus Christi and even Brownsville. There is still a lot to watch and the specifics will come later, but as of now it looks like there will be at least a risk of an arctic outbreak with the possibility of snow in 7-10 days.


Bastardi tends to overblow the cold threat to Texas from this far out. But this system is one to be concerned about.


He didn't with this last one and he certainly called last year's South Texas snow right on target. All while the NWS was still worshiping the GFS.
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#339 Postby f5 » Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:46 pm

if it snows in Houston fine enjoy it while it last just stay off the ROADS.give the wrecker companies a break.how concerned is Bastardi is he acting like its a repeat of 1989 or 1899 or more typical like the one last week?
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#340 Postby Brent » Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:49 pm

jschlitz wrote:
Extremeweatherguy wrote:I do not know the specifics, I am just relating what Joe Bastardi is saying. He says that he is worried about snow and ice to south texas this upcoming weekend. He says the storm could be similar to last years christmas storm. So basically, that means that snow would be a threat to Houston, Corpus Christi and even Brownsville. There is still a lot to watch and the specifics will come later, but as of now it looks like there will be at least a risk of an arctic outbreak with the possibility of snow in 7-10 days.


Bastardi tends to overblow the cold threat to Texas from this far out. But this system is one to be concerned about.


I'm still waiting for Rita to make landfall in Texas. :D
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