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#41 Postby john b » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:14 pm

well, I just got some sleet here in alphretta Ga!
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#42 Postby Wake4est » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:15 pm

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE RALEIGH NC
250 PM EST WED DEC 14 2005

.SHORT TERM (TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT)...
TONIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY...COLD HIGH PRESSURE OVER NORTHEAST CONUS
RIDGING SOUTH INTO THE AREA HAS BROUGHT IN MUCH COLDER AIR THAN
FORECASTED BY THE MODELS WITH TEMPERATURES MID AFTERNOON JUST SLOWLY
REACHING THE LOWER TO MID 30S. ALSO DEWPOINTS HAVE HOLDING STEADILY
IN A GENERAL RANGE OF LOW TO MID TEENS...WITH SOME SINGLE DIGITS IN
THE NORTHWEST SECTIONS. MODEL THICKNESSES STARTED OFF THIS MORNING
ABOUT 10 METERS WARMER THAN OBSERVED AND WILL BE TOO WARM THIS
EVENING (00Z) AS FORECAST 1293/1296.

THUS SEVERAL PROBLEMATIC ISSUES TO RESOLVE...
WITH MUCH COLDER AIR IN PLACE...DEWPOINTS RECOVERY WILL BE SLOWER
CAD SLOWER TO ERODE AND OVERRUNNING WARM ADVECTION INTO LOW LEVEL
SLOWER. PREFER GFS/ECMWF SOLUTION ON SURFACE LOW TRACK MOVING
NORTHEAST FROM THE GULF...NAM LIFTS SURFACE LOW NORTHEAST DIRECTLY
THROUGH CAD REGION (CENTRAL PIEDMONT REGION AND ERODING CAD
FASTER...ATYPICAL TRACK) WHILE GFS HOLDS ONTO CAD LONGER TRACKING
LOW CLOSER TO COAST. NEXT...ONSET TIME OF PRECIPITATION AND QPF
AMOUNTS. SINCE AIR MASS QUITE DRY...INITIAL PRECIP WILL BE NEEDED TO
SATURATE THE LOWER LAYERS (ABOUT .10-.15 IN). AT THIS POINT EXPECT
LIGHT PRECIP TO BREAK OUT OVER SOUTHWEST/WEST SECTIONS AFTER
MIDNIGHT WITH BEST POTENTIAL FOR MEASURABLE AROUND DAYBREAK...EARLY
MORNING RUSH HOURS. THE BEST LOCATION FOR WINTRY PRECIPITATION WILL
BE OVER THE NORTHWEST PIEDMONT WHICH INCLUDES THE TRIAD AREA AND
NORTHERN TIER SECTIONS OF THE NORTHEAST PIEDMONT ALONG THE VIRGINIA
BORDER. THESE AREAS WILL HAVE POTENTIAL FOR ICE ACCRUAL UP TO ONE
QUARTER OF AN INCH. A BRIEF MIX OF FREEZING RAIN IS POSSIBLE IN THE
TRIANGLE AREA WHERE THE POTENTIAL FOR SPOTTY ICING ON BRIDGES AND
OVERPASSES. BY MID MORNING...WITH RAIN RATES INCREASING THE THREAT
OF FREEZING RAIN WILL END...CHANGING TO ALL RAIN.
THUS A WINTER STORM WARNING WILL BE POSTED FOR FORSYTH...GUILFORD
AND DAVIDSON COUNTIES. A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR THE REMAINDER
OF THE NORTHWEST PIEDMONT AND NORTHERN TIER SECTIONS OF THE
NORTHEAST PIEDMONT. A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY MAY BE NEEDED FOR THE
TRIANGLE AREA ALONG WITH ALBEMARLE...TROY AND SANFORD IF THE ONSET
OF PRECIP IS EARLIER AND QPF AMOUNTS ARE HIGHER DURING THE PREDAWN
HOURS.
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#43 Postby colawx » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:28 pm

A Winter Weather Advisory has been issued for the northern part of the Columbia area. They are expecting freezing rain here now.
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#44 Postby Brent » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:31 pm

Sleet/Snow mix in Dacula, GA(Gwinnett County)

Getting close to you Jeny. :D
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#45 Postby Brent » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:32 pm

JenyEliza wrote:One county north of Cherokee IS the foothills of the mountains, Brent. I've lived here 38 years, I should know. ;)


I see... LOL. I just don't see Pickens County as being in the "NE corner" of GA. :P
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#46 Postby JenyEliza » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:36 pm

35 degrees and falling. :D

Still no sign of flurries or precip.
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#47 Postby JenyEliza » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:37 pm

Brent wrote:Sleet/Snow mix in Dacula, GA(Gwinnett County)

Getting close to you Jeny. :D


Well...not really. Gwinnett is on the Eastern side of the northern suburbs. I'm just two counties away from AL on the West. :D

But...it's at least in the suburbs now. :D
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#48 Postby JenyEliza » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:38 pm

Brent wrote:
JenyEliza wrote:One county north of Cherokee IS the foothills of the mountains, Brent. I've lived here 38 years, I should know. ;)


I see... LOL. I just don't see Pickens County as being in the "NE corner" of GA. :P


Well, it is considered the foothills...but you're right...it's not the NE corner where they're saying it's supposed to be the worst.

We'll split the difference. ;) :D
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#49 Postby JenyEliza » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:40 pm

Wake4est wrote:AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE RALEIGH NC
250 PM EST WED DEC 14 2005

.SHORT TERM (TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT)...
TONIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY...COLD HIGH PRESSURE OVER NORTHEAST CONUS
RIDGING SOUTH INTO THE AREA HAS BROUGHT IN MUCH COLDER AIR THAN
FORECASTED BY THE MODELS WITH TEMPERATURES MID AFTERNOON JUST SLOWLY
REACHING THE LOWER TO MID 30S. ALSO DEWPOINTS HAVE HOLDING STEADILY
IN A GENERAL RANGE OF LOW TO MID TEENS...WITH SOME SINGLE DIGITS IN
THE NORTHWEST SECTIONS. MODEL THICKNESSES STARTED OFF THIS MORNING
ABOUT 10 METERS WARMER THAN OBSERVED AND WILL BE TOO WARM THIS
EVENING (00Z) AS FORECAST 1293/1296.

THUS SEVERAL PROBLEMATIC ISSUES TO RESOLVE...
WITH MUCH COLDER AIR IN PLACE...DEWPOINTS RECOVERY WILL BE SLOWER
CAD SLOWER TO ERODE AND OVERRUNNING WARM ADVECTION INTO LOW LEVEL
SLOWER. PREFER GFS/ECMWF SOLUTION ON SURFACE LOW TRACK MOVING
NORTHEAST FROM THE GULF...NAM LIFTS SURFACE LOW NORTHEAST DIRECTLY
THROUGH CAD REGION (CENTRAL PIEDMONT REGION AND ERODING CAD
FASTER...ATYPICAL TRACK) WHILE GFS HOLDS ONTO CAD LONGER TRACKING
LOW CLOSER TO COAST. NEXT...ONSET TIME OF PRECIPITATION AND QPF
AMOUNTS. SINCE AIR MASS QUITE DRY...INITIAL PRECIP WILL BE NEEDED TO
SATURATE THE LOWER LAYERS (ABOUT .10-.15 IN). AT THIS POINT EXPECT
LIGHT PRECIP TO BREAK OUT OVER SOUTHWEST/WEST SECTIONS AFTER
MIDNIGHT WITH BEST POTENTIAL FOR MEASURABLE AROUND DAYBREAK...EARLY
MORNING RUSH HOURS. THE BEST LOCATION FOR WINTRY PRECIPITATION WILL
BE OVER THE NORTHWEST PIEDMONT WHICH INCLUDES THE TRIAD AREA AND
NORTHERN TIER SECTIONS OF THE NORTHEAST PIEDMONT ALONG THE VIRGINIA
BORDER. THESE AREAS WILL HAVE POTENTIAL FOR ICE ACCRUAL UP TO ONE
QUARTER OF AN INCH. A BRIEF MIX OF FREEZING RAIN IS POSSIBLE IN THE
TRIANGLE AREA WHERE THE POTENTIAL FOR SPOTTY ICING ON BRIDGES AND
OVERPASSES. BY MID MORNING...WITH RAIN RATES INCREASING THE THREAT
OF FREEZING RAIN WILL END...CHANGING TO ALL RAIN.
THUS A WINTER STORM WARNING WILL BE POSTED FOR FORSYTH...GUILFORD
AND DAVIDSON COUNTIES. A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR THE REMAINDER
OF THE NORTHWEST PIEDMONT AND NORTHERN TIER SECTIONS OF THE
NORTHEAST PIEDMONT. A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY MAY BE NEEDED FOR THE
TRIANGLE AREA ALONG WITH ALBEMARLE...TROY AND SANFORD IF THE ONSET
OF PRECIP IS EARLIER AND QPF AMOUNTS ARE HIGHER DURING THE PREDAWN
HOURS.


Looks like this area is out from underneath the "snow protection dome". :D
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#50 Postby JenyEliza » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:41 pm

john b wrote:well, I just got some sleet here in alphretta Ga!


Cool..but I'm on the west side...and Alpharetta is on the east (closer to the "wedge" set up). :(
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#51 Postby john b » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:41 pm

it's here in the foothills, LOL its off and on
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#52 Postby JenyEliza » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:42 pm

colawx wrote:A Winter Weather Advisory has been issued for the northern part of the Columbia area. They are expecting freezing rain here now.


Hope you're all set for an ice storm. Those are nasty.... :(
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#53 Postby JenyEliza » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:42 pm

john b wrote:it's here in the foothills, LOL its off and on


:P
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#54 Postby Brent » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:43 pm

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PEACHTREE CITY GA
334 PM EST WED DEC 14 2005

...WINTER WEATHER POSSIBLE IN PARTS OF NORTHEAST GEORGIA...

.A WEDGE OF COLD DRY AIR HAS BUILT DOWN THE EASTERN SEABOARD...
ALLOWING TEMPERATURES IN NORTHEAST GEORGIA TO HOVER JUST ABOVE
FREEZING DURING THE DAY TODAY. AS MOISTURE INCREASES FROM A STORM
SYSTEM APPROACHING FROM THE WEST...PRECIPITATION MAY BEGIN THIS
EVENING AS A WINTRY MIXTURE...AND CHANGE OVER TO RAIN OR FREEZING
RAIN DURING THE OVERNIGHT AND EARLY THURSDAY MORNING HOURS.

GAZ014>016-022>024-150445-
/O.NEW.KFFC.WW.Y.0001.051215T0000Z-051215T1800Z/
DAWSON-LUMPKIN-WHITE-FORSYTH-HALL-BANKS-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...DAHLONEGA...CLEVELAND...GAINESVILLE
334 PM EST WED DEC 14 2005

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 7 PM THIS EVENING TO
1 PM EST THURSDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN PEACHTREE CITY HAS ISSUED A
WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 7 PM THIS
EVENING TO 1 PM EST THURSDAY.

PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN THIS EVENING LIKELY AS A PERIOD OF RAIN
MIXED WITH LIGHT SLEET AND PERHAPS SOME SNOW FLURRIES. ONCE
TEMPERATURES BEGIN TO DROP...THEY WILL REMAIN NEAR THE FREEZING
MARK. THUS ANY RAIN THAT FALLS ONCE TEMPERATURES DROP TO THESE
LEVELS MAY FREEZE ON ELEVATED OR EXPOSED SURFACES. HOWEVER...WITH
PRE-EXISTING WARM GROUND TEMPERATURES...MINIMAL IMPACT IS
EXPECTED ON ROAD SURFACES...EXCEPT PERHAPS ON EXPOSED BRIDGES AND
OVERPASSES. NUISANCE ACCUMULATIONS CANNOT BE RULED OUT ON TREES
AND POWERLINES...BUT ANY ICE THAT DOES ACCUMULATE IS EXPECTED TO
REMAIN BELOW 1/4 INCH.

A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY MEANS THAT PERIODS OF SNOW...SLEET...OR
FREEZING RAIN WILL CAUSE TRAVEL DIFFICULTIES. BE PREPARED FOR
SLIPPERY ROADS AND LIMITED VISIBILITIES...AND USE CAUTION WHILE
DRIVING.
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#55 Postby Brent » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:44 pm

JenyEliza wrote:
Brent wrote:Sleet/Snow mix in Dacula, GA(Gwinnett County)

Getting close to you Jeny. :D


Well...not really. Gwinnett is on the Eastern side of the northern suburbs. I'm just two counties away from AL on the West. :D

But...it's at least in the suburbs now. :D


Cobb County?

Yep... these wedges are amazing. 20 miles away from the ice you can be warm with no dreariness or cold wind at all. :roll:
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#56 Postby JenyEliza » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:46 pm

Brent wrote:URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PEACHTREE CITY GA
334 PM EST WED DEC 14 2005

...WINTER WEATHER POSSIBLE IN PARTS OF NORTHEAST GEORGIA...

.A WEDGE OF COLD DRY AIR HAS BUILT DOWN THE EASTERN SEABOARD...
ALLOWING TEMPERATURES IN NORTHEAST GEORGIA TO HOVER JUST ABOVE
FREEZING DURING THE DAY TODAY. AS MOISTURE INCREASES FROM A STORM
SYSTEM APPROACHING FROM THE WEST...PRECIPITATION MAY BEGIN THIS
EVENING AS A WINTRY MIXTURE...AND CHANGE OVER TO RAIN OR FREEZING
RAIN DURING THE OVERNIGHT AND EARLY THURSDAY MORNING HOURS.

GAZ014>016-022>024-150445-
/O.NEW.KFFC.WW.Y.0001.051215T0000Z-051215T1800Z/
DAWSON-LUMPKIN-WHITE-FORSYTH-HALL-BANKS-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...DAHLONEGA...CLEVELAND...GAINESVILLE
334 PM EST WED DEC 14 2005

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 7 PM THIS EVENING TO
1 PM EST THURSDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN PEACHTREE CITY HAS ISSUED A
WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 7 PM THIS
EVENING TO 1 PM EST THURSDAY.

PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN THIS EVENING LIKELY AS A PERIOD OF RAIN
MIXED WITH LIGHT SLEET AND PERHAPS SOME SNOW FLURRIES. ONCE
TEMPERATURES BEGIN TO DROP...THEY WILL REMAIN NEAR THE FREEZING
MARK. THUS ANY RAIN THAT FALLS ONCE TEMPERATURES DROP TO THESE
LEVELS MAY FREEZE ON ELEVATED OR EXPOSED SURFACES. HOWEVER...WITH
PRE-EXISTING WARM GROUND TEMPERATURES...MINIMAL IMPACT IS
EXPECTED ON ROAD SURFACES...EXCEPT PERHAPS ON EXPOSED BRIDGES AND
OVERPASSES. NUISANCE ACCUMULATIONS CANNOT BE RULED OUT ON TREES
AND POWERLINES...BUT ANY ICE THAT DOES ACCUMULATE IS EXPECTED TO
REMAIN BELOW 1/4 INCH.

A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY MEANS THAT PERIODS OF SNOW...SLEET...OR
FREEZING RAIN WILL CAUSE TRAVEL DIFFICULTIES. BE PREPARED FOR
SLIPPERY ROADS AND LIMITED VISIBILITIES...AND USE CAUTION WHILE
DRIVING.


I'm not in that one...but the night's still young, and things could change (to snow--I hope). :D
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#57 Postby JenyEliza » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:47 pm

Brent wrote:
JenyEliza wrote:
Brent wrote:Sleet/Snow mix in Dacula, GA(Gwinnett County)

Getting close to you Jeny. :D


Well...not really. Gwinnett is on the Eastern side of the northern suburbs. I'm just two counties away from AL on the West. :D

But...it's at least in the suburbs now. :D


Cobb County?

Yep... these wedges are amazing. 20 miles away from the ice you can be warm with no dreariness or cold wind at all. :roll:


Cobb/Paulding/Douglas border area. :D

And yes...the wedge and where it anchors itself is all the difference between rain, or sleet, or snow....or rain. :cry:
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#58 Postby JenyEliza » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:53 pm

Forecast for my area:

This Afternoon: A chance of rain and snow. Mostly cloudy, with a high around 37. East wind around 15 mph. Chance of precipitation is 40%.

Tonight: Periods of rain possibly mixed with freezing rain and sleet. Low around 36. East wind between 10 and 15 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%.

Thursday: Periods of rain, mainly before 1pm. High near 44. East wind between 5 and 15 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%.
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#59 Postby Brent » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:53 pm

8-)

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ifps/MapClick.p ... &map.y=171

That is just across the stateline from me. Just north of that in the same county(Heard), it's got rain/snow mix for this afternoon. :)

SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PEACHTREE CITY GA
335 PM EST WED DEC 14 2005

GAZ001>005-011-012-019-020-030-031-036>039-041>044-046>060-150845-
DADE-WALKER-CATOOSA-WHITFIELD-MURRAY-CHATTOOGA-GORDON-FLOYD-
BARTOW-POLK-PAULDING-CLARKE-OCONEE-OGLETHORPE-WILKES-HARALSON-
CARROLL-DOUGLAS-SOUTH FULTON-ROCKDALE-WALTON-NEWTON-MORGAN-GREENE-
TALIAFERRO-HEARD-COWETA-FAYETTE-CLAYTON-SPALDING-HENRY-BUTTS-
JASPER-PUTNAM-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...CALHOUN...ROME...CARTERSVILLE...
ATHENS...CARROLLTON...DOUGLASVILLE...EAST POINT...CONYERS...
COVINGTON...NEWNAN...PEACHTREE CITY...GRIFFIN
335 PM EST WED DEC 14 2005

...BRIEF WINTRY PRECIPITATION POSSIBLE ACROSS PORTIONS OF NORTH GEORGIA...

A WEDGE OF COLD DRY AIR HAS BUILT INTO NORTHEAST GEORGIA TODAY. AS
MOISTURE INCREASES FROM THE SOUTHWEST...THIS WARM AND MOIST AIR
WILL RIDE UP OVER THE COLD DOME. RAIN MAY BRIEFLY MIX WITH LIGHT
SLEET...SNOW FLURRIES...OR PERHAPS SOME FREEZING RAIN...BUT NO
IMPACTS SHOULD BE FELT AS ANY FREEZING OR FROZEN PRECIPITATION
THAT FALLS SHOULD QUICKLY MELT. WHILE WINTRY PRECIPITATION CANNOT
BE RULED OUT THROUGH THIS EVENT...MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE
PRECIPITATION SHOULD REMAIN LIQUID.

STAY TUNED TO NOAA WEATHER RADIO OR OTHER LOCAL MEDIA FOR UPDATES
ON THIS SITUATION.

SHORT TERM FORECAST
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PEACHTREE CITY GA
154 PM EST WED DEC 14 2005

GAZ042-048-049-052>062-066>076-078>084-089>091-093>095-142100-
BALDWIN-BIBB-BUTTS-CARROLL-CHATTAHOOCHEE-CLAYTON-COWETA-CRAWFORD-
FAYETTE-GLASCOCK-HANCOCK-HARRIS-HEARD-HENRY-HOUSTON-JASPER-JEFFERSON-
JONES-LAMAR-MACON-MARION-MERIWETHER-MONROE-MORGAN-MUSCOGEE-NEWTON-
PEACH-PIKE-PUTNAM-SPALDING-TALBOT-TAYLOR-TROUP-TWIGGS-UPSON-WARREN-
WASHINGTON-WILKINSON-
154 PM EST WED DEC 14 2005

.NOW...
AN AREA OF LIGHT RAIN...SLEET OR SNOW FLURRIES WILL CONTINUE ACROSS
CENTRAL AND NORTH GEORGIA AND WILL AFFECT THE AREAS FROM FRANKLIN TO
CARROLLTON TO ATLANTA...AND FROM COVINGTON TO ATHENS. LITTLE OR NO
ACCUMULATIONS ARE EXPECTED THROUGH 400 PM EST...HOWEVER THERE MAY BE
A FEW ICY PATCHES...ESPECIALLY ON BRIDGES AND OVERPASSES. DRIVERS
ARE URGED TO SLOW DOWN AND USE CAUTION.
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#60 Postby JenyEliza » Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:54 pm

Holy Batman!! Look at the moisture aiming at us.

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