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#61 Postby CaptinCrunch » Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:54 am

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gboudx wrote:What is the criteria for "cancelling" winter? It sure doesn't feel like Winter around DFW these days. Warm and dry with on-going drought. Personally, I'd like to see temps get back into the 50/low 60's for Highs with some actual rain. Rain that is more frequent than once every 2-3 months. If we don't have another arctic blast, it won't bother me, but I wouldn't be disappointed if one or 2 more did occur.


My old friend, don't worry to much about the warmer temps, by around the 3rd or 4th of January will should return to high's in the mid to lower 50's. This current wx pattern has botteled up all the cold air in canada, but that will soon change as a colder patteren takes shape, and by the 11th we shall have a repeat of the cold from mid December that should last thru the end of the month. As far as precip goes January may be dry with only 30% chances of precip as each storm system passes by.


Will that spill down to the Houston area?


Houston will see the colder temps as well, but not till around mid month. It will depend on how strong the western ridge is when it set's up and how much of the arctic air breaks off and drops south. My forecast hints at a large scale Siberian high setting up over NW Canada, a big chunck should break off due to the ridge and plunge south putting the northing states into a solid freeze with highs in the single digits and lows well below freezing. This setup is called "The McFarland Effect" and it should last for several days.
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#62 Postby Air Force Met » Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:58 am

CaptinCrunch wrote: My old friend, don't worry to much about the warmer temps, by around the 3rd or 4th of January will should return to high's in the mid to lower 50's. This current wx pattern has botteled up all the cold air in canada, but that will soon change as a colder patteren takes shape, and by the 11th we shall have a repeat of the cold from mid December that should last thru the end of the month. As far as precip goes January may be dry with only 30% chances of precip as each storm system passes by.


I'm not so sure about that...especially not about the 3rd or 4th part. The pattern is very zonal during that period. As far as long range...yes the GFS is showing a flip to a more low zonal pattern but it is in the 300 hr plus range...and we all know how accurate that is. I suspect we will get some pacific systems and as far as the Houston area is concerned...we may get highs in the low-mid 60's if we are lucky after the 3rd. The 7 day Euro is also advertizing slight ridging but also a lot of high zonal pattern.

No cold in the near future. That should allow for some cold air to build up and hopefully come down later in the month....but who knows.
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#63 Postby cctxhurricanewatcher » Tue Dec 27, 2005 5:34 pm

Mid 80's and very April like today. It felt like a winter cancel type of day. :crying:
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#64 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Tue Dec 27, 2005 10:03 pm

it was a windy day with fast moving clouds here in Houston. We reached the upper 70s, something that has not been seen here in over 20 days! I think it actually feels nice, but I will be ready for some colder air again soon.
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#65 Postby Johnny » Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:23 am

I think it feels nice also. I'm going down to Galveston tomorrow and staying through Sunday so I'm welcoming the warm pattern for now. lol
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#66 Postby Portastorm » Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:37 am

Of note this morning ... the last 3 runs of the GFS have consistently shown an arctic outbreak of sorts impacting Texas around Jan. 9th.

Yes I know ... Lucy is teeing up the football! :lol:
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#67 Postby gboudx » Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:51 am

CaptinCrunch wrote:My old friend, don't worry to much about the warmer temps, by around the 3rd or 4th of January will should return to high's in the mid to lower 50's. This current wx pattern has botteled up all the cold air in canada, but that will soon change as a colder patteren takes shape, and by the 11th we shall have a repeat of the cold from mid December that should last thru the end of the month. As far as precip goes January may be dry with only 30% chances of precip as each storm system passes by.


I hope you're right. The NWS AFD's don't give much hope for rain into January. On the plus side of this warmth are the electric and gas bills being lower than expected. BTW, I saw there was some grass fires in Kennendale. I hope you weren't affected by them.
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#68 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:23 am

Portastorm wrote:Of note this morning ... the last 3 runs of the GFS have consistently shown an arctic outbreak of sorts impacting Texas around Jan. 9th.

Yes I know ... Lucy is teeing up the football! :lol:


Yeah this mornings run shows a nice surge of arctic air by the 9th with 850mb temps. reaching well below 0C by the 10th. We may have to start another Texas snow thread if this trend continues (and if there is any moisture to work with).
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#69 Postby gboudx » Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:47 am

Extremeweatherguy wrote:
Portastorm wrote:Of note this morning ... the last 3 runs of the GFS have consistently shown an arctic outbreak of sorts impacting Texas around Jan. 9th.

Yes I know ... Lucy is teeing up the football! :lol:


Yeah this mornings run shows a nice surge of arctic air by the 9th with 850mb temps. reaching well below 0C by the 10th. We may have to start another Texas snow thread if this trend continues (and if there is any moisture to work with).


If a new thread is started, don't use the "s" word. ;)
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#70 Postby Kelarie » Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:58 am

Oh please you mean the weather is going to change again. I have already brought the shorts and short shirts out again. Geezzzz, no wonder I have a cold with the weather not knowing its mind. Plus all of the cedar in the air. :grr:
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#71 Postby Portastorm » Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:36 pm

Kelarie wrote:Oh please you mean the weather is going to change again. I have already brought the shorts and short shirts out again. Geezzzz, no wonder I have a cold with the weather not knowing its mind. Plus all of the cedar in the air. :grr:


You mean you didn't use the snowblower over Christmas? :P
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#72 Postby Johnny » Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:05 pm

Yep, I think the next thread should be called, "The Official Arctic Air Thread for Texas" With a disclaimer that says...

"No one at anytime should mention the possibilites of snow for the state of Texas during this time period. If you are in violaton of this rule, you will automatically be banned from Storm2k"

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#73 Postby Kelarie » Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:07 pm

Portastorm wrote:
Kelarie wrote:Oh please you mean the weather is going to change again. I have already brought the shorts and short shirts out again. Geezzzz, no wonder I have a cold with the weather not knowing its mind. Plus all of the cedar in the air. :grr:


You mean you didn't use the snowblower over Christmas? :P


What are you talking about, I don't own a snow blower. I live in Texas where it doesn't snow. :P
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#74 Postby cctxhurricanewatcher » Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:59 pm

Portastorm wrote:Of note this morning ... the last 3 runs of the GFS have consistently shown an arctic outbreak of sorts impacting Texas around Jan. 9th.

Yes I know ... Lucy is teeing up the football! :lol:


Oh no, not again Charlie Brown!

For what it's worth, JB tends to think the nation will return to normal by the end of next week and the Arctic air will start oozing in the week after. Perhaps JB is now worshiping at the GFS alter now.

Meanwhile, another winter cancel type of day with the A/C on again today!
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#75 Postby cctxhurricanewatcher » Wed Dec 28, 2005 2:00 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:
Portastorm wrote:Of note this morning ... the last 3 runs of the GFS have consistently shown an arctic outbreak of sorts impacting Texas around Jan. 9th.

Yes I know ... Lucy is teeing up the football! :lol:


Yeah this mornings run shows a nice surge of arctic air by the 9th with 850mb temps. reaching well below 0C by the 10th. We may have to start another Texas snow thread if this trend continues (and if there is any moisture to work with).


Or another Texas winter cancel thread.......... :sprinkler:
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#76 Postby Portastorm » Wed Dec 28, 2005 2:49 pm

You know what amazes me so much about our weather in December? I just was on the CPC website and they have the 30-day temperature anamolies for the nation. Most of Texas is either at normal or slightly below normal.

Given the dramatic warmth we have seen in the last 5-7 days or so, this must mean we were consistently below normal for a significant length of time earlier in the month. Yes I know we had no real record-breaking cold. Instead it was 2-3 weeks of well below normal cold.

Perhaps that will be the theme for this winter: extremes.
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#77 Postby Portastorm » Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:00 am

You would think that if a Special Weather Statement is issued for your CWA on December 29th, it would most likely involve winter weather, right? Well, here we are ... a special weather statement has been issued for the bulk of south central Texas for what? Fires! Wildfire risk!

Sheesh ... what a winter. :roll:
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#78 Postby cctxhurricanewatcher » Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:15 am

Portastorm wrote:You would think that if a Special Weather Statement is issued for your CWA on December 29th, it would most likely involve winter weather, right? Well, here we are ... a special weather statement has been issued for the bulk of south central Texas for what? Fires! Wildfire risk!

Sheesh ... what a winter. :roll:


Yep, yep, yep.

I hope people will use their heads this weekend and forego the fireworks. But sadly they won't because most of the fireworks are being set off by kids and the don't get paid to think. :roll: :wink: The nice, warm weather will be very inviting for people to set off fireworks this year where in years past it's been wet and cold outside. Anybody want to bet we have a wet and cold spring break?
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#79 Postby Portastorm » Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:33 am

cctxhurricanewatcher wrote:
Portastorm wrote:You would think that if a Special Weather Statement is issued for your CWA on December 29th, it would most likely involve winter weather, right? Well, here we are ... a special weather statement has been issued for the bulk of south central Texas for what? Fires! Wildfire risk!

Sheesh ... what a winter. :roll:


Yep, yep, yep.

I hope people will use their heads this weekend and forego the fireworks. But sadly they won't because most of the fireworks are being set off by kids and the don't get paid to think. :roll: :wink: The nice, warm weather will be very inviting for people to set off fireworks this year where in years past it's been wet and cold outside. Anybody want to bet we have a wet and cold spring break?


Myself and my neighbors usually indulge a bit with fireworks on New Years Eve but this year we have completely ruled that out. It is ridiculously dry out there and we have a greenbelt behind my house that is now a brownbelt.

A wet and cold spring break? I would welcome the "wet" part, that's for sure!
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#80 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:29 pm

The GFS is showing a return to a much colder pattern beginning next week. In about 7-14 days we will be talking about how cold it is, rather than how hot it is. I agree that this will be a winter of extremes. This warmth of 10-20 above normal will only be replaced by cold 10-20 below normal...it is going to be a back and forth January and February...but I think middle to late January may feature the harshest cold so far this winter for TX. Lots to watch, but one thing is for sure...winter is not over with..at least not yet.

***The European also has a colder look come about Jan. 4th/5th***
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