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#261 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:06 pm

Subtropical origin cyclones tend to be much more tenacious because
they are born with a lower SST threshold and cold-core characteristics
possibly partially baroclinic characteristics that allow them to
survive in shear and SST conditions to an extent that may be
partially unfavorable to inherent warm-core origin cyclones.
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#262 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:07 pm

An increase to winds of 60-65 mph is not out of the question at this
time.
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#263 Postby WindRunner » Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:12 pm

Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:An increase to winds of 60-65 mph is not out of the question at this
time.


Pssst! 50kts=60mph :wink:
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#264 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:13 pm

WindRunner wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:An increase to winds of 60-65 mph is not out of the question at this
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Pssst! 50kts=60mph :wink:


Whoops ok thanks i was thinking 55 mph=50 kts
ok so 65-70 mph not out of question
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#265 Postby WindRunner » Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:17 pm

I'm almost expecting a 55kt 10pm advisory at this point. Does anyone see a hint of an eye starting to form, maybe that little blue dot in the middle of the yellows?

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#266 Postby Scorpion » Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:22 pm

Wow, it looks great. 55 kt is almost guaranteed for 11.
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#267 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:28 pm

man, it wont die!
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#268 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:24 pm

Very Intense convection wrapping around Zeta and EXPANDING.
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#269 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:35 pm

...ZETA STRENGTHENED AGAINST ALL ODDS AND FORECASTS...


Above is Avilas header for 10 PM EST.Another humorous moment from .him
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#270 Postby JamesFromMaine2 » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:38 pm

Heres the eye wall talked about in the discussion! Still developing but looks nice!

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#271 Postby WindRunner » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:51 pm

Cane at 4! Cane at 4! :D
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#272 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:52 pm

weird weird weird season!
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#273 Postby JamesFromMaine2 » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:56 pm

heres an updated picture of the eyewall!

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#274 Postby WindRunner » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:59 pm

WindRunner wrote:Cane at 4! Cane at 4! :D


*still chanting* :D
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#275 Postby brunota2003 » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:00 pm

Oh my, is it just me, or is that a complete eyewall??? good night everyone, cane by 2:30... :D
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#276 Postby Brent » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:03 pm

WindRunner wrote:Cane at 4! Cane at 4! :D


That's 3am here so I'll probably be awake. This is unreal. :lol:
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#277 Postby Margie » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:06 pm

Well that forecast was a bit of a disappointment. While it is clear that Zeta is strengthening at the core, vis, IR, and WV all show the convection is already being eaten away from the west. This appears to be happening at a different level than the outflow (probably at a lower level). While the stronger core will offer some better protection, I still think that the shear is shortly going to be making even further inroads into the convection.

However that does not mean that I think Zeta is done. There is still the possibility Zeta will get past the trough. We have seen that these hybrids can survive with very little assoc convection.

This last was especially disappointing, considering the length of time that Zeta has been in the intensifying phase:

ALL I AM DOING IN THE OFFICIAL FOREAST IS PROLONGING THE LIFE OF A GRADUALLY WEAKENING ZETA...BASED ON CONTINUITY.

Update:

OK thankfully I got some help on this one from a very talented met.

The shear did enhance the convection.

The trough is coming apart, weakening in the southern end. It appeared so on IR imagery earlier this evng but I didn't know enough about these features to tell for certain. But this I did not get: a weak upper low that probably formed off the bottom of the trough is possibly sheltering Zeta. The southward movement did save it for now, because it steered into the area of the trough that is fracturing, and westerlies are still likely to get to the convection, but it is less clear exactly when this will occur, and it may not occur until the next front reaches Zeta.
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#278 Postby thunderchief » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:17 pm

ummm this is a rather well organized looking 50 knot storm. That northern outflow looks very good. I frankly wouldnt be surpised to see a hurricane shortly... except of course... for the little fact that this is january.
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#279 Postby KatDaddy » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:38 pm

The amazing events of the 2005 season have spilled over to 2006. This is just crazy but Zeta is nearing hurricane strength! The eyewall is forming tonight against all odds. Will Alberto form next month????? One does wonder after all we have seen.
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#280 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:56 pm

By the way, 2005 was the first season that we went from A - Z, 2006 will be the first season that we go from Z - A and maybe we go back to Z!

Can you image? Having to Zetas in one year!!!!!
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