Bible Study Coming to New Braunfels ISD

[southerngale]

PS: I think my smiley things are disabled for some reason, they're not showing up in southerngale's posts..

I checked your profile. They're not disabled. I can see smilies fine and I'm not aware of anyone else having a problem with them...not sure why you can't.

Evolution on the other hand is accepted by almost everyone who is not an Islamist or a Conservative Christian.

Since like 75% to 85% of Americans call themselves Christians (depending on the poll) and another 0.5% or so for Islam, I'd say most believe God created the universe and man. I don't know the figures on that, but I'm sure it has something to do with evolution being allowed, then mandated in public schools. When you force one theory upon children, they just might believe it. After all, it's their school that is teaching it, the place where their parents say they must go to learn. Fortunately, many parents are able to correct this with their kids by teaching them the truth at home and/or in church, but some just don't bother or may not believe it themselves.

If we're going to teach the evolution theory in public schools, we should also teach creationism. Let the children hear both. Oh wait, non-Christians won't like that because it's not a science. Ok, how about we teach "intelligent design" then?

[kevin]

I didn't look up far enough. The last instance of smileys on your post deal with the one where you said you were sick. I wasn't looking up far enough because I believed you were referring to one of the ones afterwards. My smileys show up fine. Get well soon by the way.


Most people do believe that god created the universe, and the governing dynamics of the world. However while a good number of Americans are christians (the polls show a pretty big swath when I looked into them before, but differ to a strong degree in accuracy and regional sampling) there is a very large number of christians who do believe in evolution. This differs according to region, and here in the south there is a much greater percentage of fundamentalist christians.

Catholicism accepts evolution.
Protestantism is torn both between denominations and within denominations.
Islam is much more against it as a whole than christianity.

[DoctorHurricane2003]

I'm going to have to admit, sg, you use failed logic in response to kevin on the Evolution on the other hand is accepted...

Once again, as I have said before, you can believe in creationistic evolution, which is my choice.

Read my other thread for my opinion on the last sentence of that post.

[kevin]

There is nothing in evolution that goes against the existence of a god.

The formation of life from inorganic compounds has no theory that governs it, it is simply a field of inquiry. Unlike the rest of biology which deals with a backbone that is evolution by natural selection.

[southerngale]

Ok Kevin, gotcha. When I mentioned that I put a smiley there, we were talking about intelligent design = creationsim so that was the one I meant.....when I first brought that up.

Btw, I'm not Catholic either. I'm Baptist.

[southerngale]

I'm going to have to admit, sg, you use failed logic in response to kevin on the Evolution on the other hand is accepted...

Once again, as I have said before, you can believe in creationistic evolution, which is my choice.

Read my other thread for my opinion on the last sentence of that post.

Yeah, I did see where you said that.


I don't know where I used failed logic. Except for a few poll numbers, I was giving my opinion.

[feederband]

Things are still evoving today...This is a fact based teaching...Not a belief in a book that can't be proven...I guess you would probably say that dinosaurs and humans walked the earth at the same time. Because the bible time line makes the earth about 6000 years old....I say I like the evolution teaching better..

I don't have children. But if I did - suppose I said that I did not want my child's believes in God to be countered? What would you say to that? Because I would teach my child that God created the world AND man. If you are going to teach one, then the other should be offered as well.

If you had children (you can have mine if you wish. ), but if you had children teaching them that only God created man is ridiculous. You will have problems when it comes to human biology and so forth. I say let them learn that stuff when the time is right.

lol - OMG!!!! Dude, all I have ever believed ALL MY LIFE is that God created man! And I have never had one single problem when it comes to human biology.

Me either. I thank God for my upbringing in church and being taught the Truth. I can't imagine being lost in this world, thinking we came from monkeys with no real purpose. That seems so sad.

I don't think we came from monkeys but I do believe we both may of came from the same thing and just went separate ways. I think we do have purpose .That by our actions to make life better for ourselves as well as others. There is nothing sad about it...I love what life I have and I think I'm a happier person much more than my religious friends... I'm glad my parents brought me up the way they did...And we differ of coarse about which truth we were taught...

[DoctorHurricane2003]

Your argument implied that the majority of Christians, who assumingly believe in creationism, must reject evolution since they are Christian, which is completely not true.

Now I am careful to point out that your argument implied it, as when you are involved in such arguments, if one person takes that implication, many other people may also. If you didn't mean to state it that way, you may want to try to phrase your argument more specifically to prevent extreme people from getting angry or taking it the wrong way. I'm not trying to push you around like a student or what have you, just trying to prevent people from acting rashly and/or angrily to your arguments and maybe help others on here to phrase their arguments better. It may not sound important on a message board to phrase statements correctly, but in arguments such as this it is actually important to make sure what you think is coming across correctly.

[Skywatch_NC]

Things are still evoving today...This is a fact based teaching...Not a belief in a book that can't be proven...I guess you would probably say that dinosaurs and humans walked the earth at the same time. Because the bible time line makes the earth about 6000 years old....I say I like the evolution teaching better..

I don't have children. But if I did - suppose I said that I did not want my child's believes in God to be countered? What would you say to that? Because I would teach my child that God created the world AND man. If you are going to teach one, then the other should be offered as well.

If you had children (you can have mine if you wish. ), but if you had children teaching them that only God created man is ridiculous. You will have problems when it comes to human biology and so forth. I say let them learn that stuff when the time is right.

lol - OMG!!!! Dude, all I have ever believed ALL MY LIFE is that God created man! And I have never had one single problem when it comes to human biology.

Me either. I thank God for my upbringing in church and being taught the Truth. I can't imagine being lost in this world, thinking we came from monkeys with no real purpose. That seems so sad.

I don't think we came from monkeys but I do believe we both may of came from the same thing and just went separate ways. I think we do have purpose .That by our actions to make life better for ourselves as well as others. There is nothing sad about it...I love what life I have and I think I'm a happier person much more than my religious friends... I'm glad my parents brought me up the way they did...And we differ of coarse about which truth we were taught...

And you come to that conclusion how?

[feederband]

Things are still evoving today...This is a fact based teaching...Not a belief in a book that can't be proven...I guess you would probably say that dinosaurs and humans walked the earth at the same time. Because the bible time line makes the earth about 6000 years old....I say I like the evolution teaching better..

I don't have children. But if I did - suppose I said that I did not want my child's believes in God to be countered? What would you say to that? Because I would teach my child that God created the world AND man. If you are going to teach one, then the other should be offered as well.

If you had children (you can have mine if you wish. ), but if you had children teaching them that only God created man is ridiculous. You will have problems when it comes to human biology and so forth. I say let them learn that stuff when the time is right.

lol - OMG!!!! Dude, all I have ever believed ALL MY LIFE is that God created man! And I have never had one single problem when it comes to human biology.

Me either. I thank God for my upbringing in church and being taught the Truth. I can't imagine being lost in this world, thinking we came from monkeys with no real purpose. That seems so sad.

I don't think we came from monkeys but I do believe we both may of came from the same thing and just went separate ways. I think we do have purpose .That by our actions to make life better for ourselves as well as others. There is nothing sad about it...I love what life I have and I think I'm a happier person much more than my religious friends... I'm glad my parents brought me up the way they did...And we differ of coarse about which truth we were taught...

And you come to that conclusion how?

Not my S2K storm friends...Most of my friends will tell you that most of the things in their lives has not gone to plan. They go to chuch and pray for their god to fix things but things just always seem to get worse for them...I tell them to get their lives in order by themselves maybe take a break from the religion aspects of it...Then once their lives are back in order then go back to their beliefs...

[coriolis]

Alas, I have one foot firmly grounded on each side of this chasm. (Note that I do not say fence). Like Dr. Hurricane, I feel that there has to be a way to unify the two sides.

Maybe the knowledge is more than we're supposed to know in this life. Or maybe the knowledge is more than we can know in this life. I'll shrug my shoulders. I wasn't around back then. So who knows?

Meanwhile I happily go on with my life, not with my head in the sand, but rather tackling issues that I can reasonably understand and resolve. There's enough of them to keep me busy. Knowing the ultimate answer to the question at hand isn't going to get that crown for my son's tooth.

[wxcrazytwo]

wow 8 pages.

[feederband]

wow 8 pages.

And only locked once and another comparable thread out there...

[feederband]

after taking this quiz it says I am a Unitarian Universalism or at least think that way more than the others...hmmmm...

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html


And that I'm least likely to be a Scientologist... Good

[CajunMama]

after taking this quiz it says I am a Unitarian Universalism or at least think that way more than the others...hmmmm...

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html


And that I'm least likely to be a Scientologist... Good

100% Roman Catholic (which I am) and Eastern Orthodox and my lowest score was Nontheist 17%.

[feederband]

after taking this quiz it says I am a Unitarian Universalism or at least think that way more than the others...hmmmm...

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html


And that I'm least likely to be a Scientologist... Good

100% Roman Catholic (which I am) and Eastern Orthodox and my lowest score was Nontheist 17%.

Kind of neat on how they show the % of the other religions...

[O Town]

belief-o-matic

Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (100%)

[feederband]

belief-o-matic

Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (100%)

Thats what my wife ended up being...

[wxcrazytwo]

1. Unitarian Universalism (100%)
2. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (97%)
3. Mahayana Buddhism (94%)
4. Liberal Quakers (90%)
5. Theravada Buddhism (87%)
6. Neo-Pagan (82%)
7. Jainism (79%)
8. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (76%)
9. New Age (76%)
10. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (75%)
11. Hinduism (75%)
12. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (70%)
13. New Thought (69%)
14. Scientology (68%)
15. Bahá'í Faith (64%)
16. Jehovah's Witness (64%)
17. Taoism (63%)
18. Secular Humanism (62%)
19. Reform Judaism (61%)
20. Orthodox Quaker (60%)
21. Sikhism (59%)
22. Orthodox Judaism (54%)
23. Islam (47%)
24. Seventh Day Adventist (43%)
25. Nontheist (43%)
26. Eastern Orthodox (32%)
27. Roman Catholic (32%)

[feederband]

1. Unitarian Universalism (100%)
2. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (97%)
3. Mahayana Buddhism (94%)
4. Liberal Quakers (90%)
5. Theravada Buddhism (87%)
6. Neo-Pagan (82%)
7. Jainism (79%)
8. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (76%)
9. New Age (76%)
10. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (75%)
11. Hinduism (75%)
12. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (70%)
13. New Thought (69%)
14. Scientology (68%)
15. Bahá'í Faith (64%)
16. Jehovah's Witness (64%)
17. Taoism (63%)
18. Secular Humanism (62%)
19. Reform Judaism (61%)
20. Orthodox Quaker (60%)
21. Sikhism (59%)
22. Orthodox Judaism (54%)
23. Islam (47%)
24. Seventh Day Adventist (43%)
25. Nontheist (43%)
26. Eastern Orthodox (32%)
27. Roman Catholic (32%)

Did you even know what a UU was until this quiz? I didn't ,never even heard of it...Not that I will go but it is intersting that their is a church that a athiest can go to...