southern plains freezing rain/sleet thread

[JenyEliza]

heyjenny what are you on, go to fort worth nws and look at the fort worth naval sation.. they have seen constant freezing rain, drizzle and sleet the last 10 hrs with temperatures in the 20s , and u tell me thats nothing..lol!!!!! same thing for dallas addison click on it and theyve seen constant freezing drizzle light freezing rain and freezing mist the last 5 hours with temps in the 20s .. the ice will build up fast... sounds to me like youre just jealous of people in Dallas..

Have you ever been in a *real* ice storm before?

[plainsman]

your 1st post was so rude and not true, it looks like an s2k moderator had to delete it.. look at the Fort worth nws sites before you comment on something. freezing rain and mist doesnt show up to good on radars.. but i f u go to nws and look up Fort worth naval it shows 8 hrs straight of freezing precipitaion with temps in the mid 20s and the same thing with Dallas addison.. 6 hrs of frozen precip with temps in the mid 20s and its currently still in the mid 20s with freezing drizzle at both sites.... theres already been 200 winter weather motor accidents reported by ch.11 news and the day just started....

[plainsman]

i never said this is a major ice storm... did i jenny?? but hey its decent.... for some areas.. if you can read then go to the ft.worth nws click on fort worth naval and youll clearly see that station has seen 8 straight hours of frozen precipitation, then click on dallas addison youll see theyve seen 6 hours of frozen precip with temps in the 20s at both dallas and fort worth.. and the nws does not lie...

[TrekkerCC]

your 1st post was so rude and not true, it looks like an s2k moderator had to delete it.. look at the Fort worth nws sites before you comment on something. freezing rain and mist doesnt show up to good on radars.. but i f u go to nws and look up Fort worth naval it shows 8 hrs straight of freezing precipitaion with temps in the mid 20s and the same thing with Dallas addison.. 6 hrs of frozen precip with temps in the mid 20s and its currently still in the mid 20s with freezing drizzle at both sites.... theres already been 200 winter weather motor accidents reported by ch.11 news and the day just started....

I am somewhere around the Addison area. Road conditions are still quite drivable (out and about just not too long ago), we have been receiving some off and on freezing drizzle which has been collecting on car windows, mailboxes, some sidewalks, a little on the roads/bridges, etc. Not all the sidewalks/roads are wet yet. Definitely, I thought we were going to get more sustained bursts of light precip before this event started and now it is turning out to be mostly a bust. Again, it probably differs by area, if a sleet/freezing rain band went through the downtown areas, they are probably in a much more sticky situation than the Northern suburbs.

BTW, the home station temperature is 27°F and a dewpoint of 19°F at the present time.

-TrekkerCC

[JenyEliza]

your 1st post was so rude and not true, it looks like an s2k moderator had to delete it..

No moderator deleted it. *I* did, because I didn't want to be rude.

However, I'm not going to join you in your psychedelic ice and snow fantasies, either.

If you're happy with your winter weather, that's all that counts.

Now, I think I'll just leave you to the multi-colored ice patches out your way, and end this discussion with you.

Have a nice afternoon.

Jen

[TrekkerCC]

i never said this is a major ice storm... did i jenny?? but hey its decent.... for some areas.. if you can read then go to the ft.worth nws click on fort worth naval and youll clearly see that station has seen 8 straight hours of frozen precipitation, then click on dallas addison youll see theyve seen 6 hours of frozen precip with temps in the 20s at both dallas and fort worth.. and the nws does not lie...

Interesting...considering what you wrote a day or so prior:

me too cheezy! light freezing rain and sleet will move in tonight causing a glaze on the roads.. but the bulk of the winter precip for Dallas is not going to hit until saturday afternoon through sunday afternoon but i still expect 1 inch of ice.. theres still plenty of moisture to work with! accuweather has the bulk of the wintry precip right over Dallas on the ice storm map if you look...... a winter storm warning will be issued tomorrow at noon i can gurantee that! i think this will be a whopper of an icestorm fro North Texas.......

1" of ice is definitely over the Winter Storm Warning criteria of 1/4" of ice or more. As you were forecasting a 1" coat of ice, you were implying that this was going to be a major ice storm. A 1" coat of ice appears to be very unlikely at this point.

-TrekkerCC

[JenyEliza]

i never said this is a major ice storm... did i jenny??

1" of ice is a major ice storm.

>1/2" is a major ice storm

>1/4" is a signficant ice storm

You've made predictions for all of those amounts of ice accretion in your area in this thread, have you not?

[JenyEliza]

Here is a link to photos of an ice storm here in my area. We had ice accretion in the neighborhood of 1/4" to 1/2" in areas.

This is what a *real* ice storm looks like, plainsman.


This is 1/4-1/2" ice accretion.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ffc/html/ice2k.shtml

This particular storm left two 75 foot pines in the center of the roof of my home. Later another landed on my vehicle.

Total storm damage at Jeny's house: $15,000.00

This storm was a baby compared to some we've had here. The ice storms that really *do* go >1" are destructive monsters and they leave entire regions without power for days, and sometimes weeks.

Have a look at those pictures I linked to.

Is that what it looks out your way in Ft. Worth, plainsman?

[JenyEliza]

And here's another with 1/4" to 1/2" ice accretion.



This storm was from January 2005.

Pictures: http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ffc/html/icing13005.shtml

Report: http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ffc/html/istorm13005.shtml

A winter storm coated much of North and Central Georgia in a layer of ice causing very dangerous conditions for travel on the highways. There were numerous accidents, and, at times, road closures. In addition, the weight of ice brought down many tree limbs and quite a few power lines. More than a quarter of a million customers lost electrical service at some point during the storm. Flights in and out of Atlanta's International Airport were affected as the number of runways available for take-offs and landings were reduced from the normal 4 to 1 or 2.

The event was set up Friday January 28 when a shallow layer of very cold, dry air pushed into Georgia on strong northeast winds. With temperatures in the 30s early Friday night, an area of rain pushed into the state from the west. When the rain began falling into the cold, dry air temperatures dropped below freezing. The rain began to freeze on contact with the ground or any above-ground object resulting in ice accumulation. This began before midnight Friday. The air became so cold overnight that some of the rain froze BEFORE hitting the ground, resulting in a precipitation type called SLEET. Some areas - mainly in Northeast Georgia, even reported some snow.

Precipitation persisted into Saturday (Jan 29), but began to taper off later in the day. However,a misty drizzle persisted which also froze on contact with above-ground surfaces, so there was additional ice build-up Saturday Night.

By Sunday morning (Jan 30), the precipitation had ended and temperatures finally climbed above the freezing mark across the entire area.

[gboudx]

Impressive pics there Jeny. I'm glad we haven't seen anything like that around here.

[JenyEliza]

Impressive pics there Jeny. I'm glad we haven't seen anything like that around here.

Unfortunately, we've seen it too many times here. So, I *know* my stuff when it comes to ice storms and the damage they cause.

1" of ice predicted for my area, would have me battening down the hatches like it was doomsday. We'd close off every room in the house and super heat our living room (where our gas logs are), in the event we lost power/heat (and 1" of ice would nearly guarantee several days, if not a week or two of no power). We would have sleeping bags on the floor for the kids, and I'd have the couch.

I'd pull out my hurricane kit and use it for my winter wx kit. I'd have my battery operated NOAA radio ready, along with our battery powered TV/DVD player, battery powered flourescent lanterns and we'd have plenty of non-perishable, no-cook foods at the ready.

A one inch ice accumulation is no small thing.

[Ivanhater]

Impressive pics there Jeny. I'm glad we haven't seen anything like that around here.

Unfortunately, we've seen it too many times here. So, I *know* my stuff when it comes to ice storms and the damage they cause.

1" of ice predicted for my area, would have me battening down the hatches like it was doomsday. We'd close off every room in the house and super heat our living room (where our gas logs are), in the event we lost power/heat (and 1" of ice would nearly guarantee several days, if not a week or two of no power). We would have sleeping bags on the floor for the kids, and I'd have the couch.

I'd pull out my hurricane kit and use it for my winter wx kit. I'd have my battery operated NOAA radio ready, along with our battery powered TV/DVD player, battery powered flourescent lanterns and we'd have plenty of non-perishable, no-cook foods at the ready.

A one inch ice accumulation is no small thing.

i thought you were done with your argument with plainsman

[JenyEliza]

Impressive pics there Jeny. I'm glad we haven't seen anything like that around here.

Unfortunately, we've seen it too many times here. So, I *know* my stuff when it comes to ice storms and the damage they cause.

1" of ice predicted for my area, would have me battening down the hatches like it was doomsday. We'd close off every room in the house and super heat our living room (where our gas logs are), in the event we lost power/heat (and 1" of ice would nearly guarantee several days, if not a week or two of no power). We would have sleeping bags on the floor for the kids, and I'd have the couch.

I'd pull out my hurricane kit and use it for my winter wx kit. I'd have my battery operated NOAA radio ready, along with our battery powered TV/DVD player, battery powered flourescent lanterns and we'd have plenty of non-perishable, no-cook foods at the ready.

A one inch ice accumulation is no small thing.

i thought you were done with your argument with plainsman

I was responding to gboudx. Did you not see that?

[gboudx]

Looks like it may be time to start looking ahead to any other wintry precip events. End of next week into the weekend looks like another batch of cold air hits NTX. Question is, will there be any disturbances around to provide some lift for precip?

[Ivanhater]

Impressive pics there Jeny. I'm glad we haven't seen anything like that around here.

Unfortunately, we've seen it too many times here. So, I *know* my stuff when it comes to ice storms and the damage they cause.

1" of ice predicted for my area, would have me battening down the hatches like it was doomsday. We'd close off every room in the house and super heat our living room (where our gas logs are), in the event we lost power/heat (and 1" of ice would nearly guarantee several days, if not a week or two of no power). We would have sleeping bags on the floor for the kids, and I'd have the couch.

I'd pull out my hurricane kit and use it for my winter wx kit. I'd have my battery operated NOAA radio ready, along with our battery powered TV/DVD player, battery powered flourescent lanterns and we'd have plenty of non-perishable, no-cook foods at the ready.

A one inch ice accumulation is no small thing.

i thought you were done with your argument with plainsman

I was responding to gboudx. Did you not see that?

ya, i can "see" your jabs with comments like "know" and "is that what is looks like out your way plainesman"? this all after you said you were "done" with the argument...it all seems childish to me, but then again thats just me

[JenyEliza]

Impressive pics there Jeny. I'm glad we haven't seen anything like that around here.

Unfortunately, we've seen it too many times here. So, I *know* my stuff when it comes to ice storms and the damage they cause.

1" of ice predicted for my area, would have me battening down the hatches like it was doomsday. We'd close off every room in the house and super heat our living room (where our gas logs are), in the event we lost power/heat (and 1" of ice would nearly guarantee several days, if not a week or two of no power). We would have sleeping bags on the floor for the kids, and I'd have the couch.

I'd pull out my hurricane kit and use it for my winter wx kit. I'd have my battery operated NOAA radio ready, along with our battery powered TV/DVD player, battery powered flourescent lanterns and we'd have plenty of non-perishable, no-cook foods at the ready.

A one inch ice accumulation is no small thing.

i thought you were done with your argument with plainsman

I was responding to gboudx. Did you not see that?

ya, i can "see" your jabs with comments like "know" and "is that what is looks like out your way plainesman"? this all after you said you were "done" with the argument...it all seems childish to me, but then again thats just me

So your point is what, exactly? To take shots at me now? Ok...if that's what you want to do, no skin off my nose.

Enjoy.

[Ivanhater]

Impressive pics there Jeny. I'm glad we haven't seen anything like that around here.

Unfortunately, we've seen it too many times here. So, I *know* my stuff when it comes to ice storms and the damage they cause.

1" of ice predicted for my area, would have me battening down the hatches like it was doomsday. We'd close off every room in the house and super heat our living room (where our gas logs are), in the event we lost power/heat (and 1" of ice would nearly guarantee several days, if not a week or two of no power). We would have sleeping bags on the floor for the kids, and I'd have the couch.

I'd pull out my hurricane kit and use it for my winter wx kit. I'd have my battery operated NOAA radio ready, along with our battery powered TV/DVD player, battery powered flourescent lanterns and we'd have plenty of non-perishable, no-cook foods at the ready.

A one inch ice accumulation is no small thing.

i thought you were done with your argument with plainsman

I was responding to gboudx. Did you not see that?

ya, i can "see" your jabs with comments like "know" and "is that what is looks like out your way plainesman"? this all after you said you were "done" with the argument...it all seems childish to me, but then again thats just me

So your point is what, exactly? To take shots at me now? Ok...if that's what you want to do, no skin off my nose.

Enjoy.

not at all, you said you were done arguing , obviously you were not, so maybe NOW this thread can continue without the childish arguments

[JenyEliza]

Impressive pics there Jeny. I'm glad we haven't seen anything like that around here.

Unfortunately, we've seen it too many times here. So, I *know* my stuff when it comes to ice storms and the damage they cause.

1" of ice predicted for my area, would have me battening down the hatches like it was doomsday. We'd close off every room in the house and super heat our living room (where our gas logs are), in the event we lost power/heat (and 1" of ice would nearly guarantee several days, if not a week or two of no power). We would have sleeping bags on the floor for the kids, and I'd have the couch.

I'd pull out my hurricane kit and use it for my winter wx kit. I'd have my battery operated NOAA radio ready, along with our battery powered TV/DVD player, battery powered flourescent lanterns and we'd have plenty of non-perishable, no-cook foods at the ready.

A one inch ice accumulation is no small thing.

i thought you were done with your argument with plainsman

I was responding to gboudx. Did you not see that?

ya, i can "see" your jabs with comments like "know" and "is that what is looks like out your way plainesman"? this all after you said you were "done" with the argument...it all seems childish to me, but then again thats just me

So your point is what, exactly? To take shots at me now? Ok...if that's what you want to do, no skin off my nose.

Enjoy.

not at all, you said you were done arguing , obviously you were not, so maybe NOW this thread can continue without the childish arguments

Yes, the unsupported 1" ice accretion predictions for Ft. Worth were rather mature, weren't they?

Look, if someone is going to make wild predictions like that, with absolutely NOTHING to support their claim--they're going to be challenged. And that's all I did. If you don't care for the way I did it, I'm sorry.

As for childish arguments, I hope you'll note the other poster's comments were not exactly mature. I supported my arguments with facts...and photo illustrations of the kind of ice accretion he was predicting.

He made childish claims that I'm "jealous"....and when challenged with those facts and illustrations, he deserted this thread.

Now...I'm not sure what any of this has to do with you...or why you're jumping into the middle of it, but it seems to me you're not being very helpful at all.

But....hey, that's just me.

[Ivanhater]

i have no problem with challenging his posts, but there is a better way to do it, BOTH of you were acting like 8 year olds, and BOTH of you were being rude, however, you said you were done and continued to make jabs, that is why i jumped in... what does this have to do with me? i read this thread as well and it is quite annoying reading through the back and forth, which i guess is whats happening now

[plainsman]

the weather channel just updated their front page article saying light frozen precip will occur from the red river valley including Dallas Fort Worth to the tennesee valley until sunday night.... if the temps were going to be in the low 30s this event would be nothing!!!! but the temps are going to be in the low 20s with mostly freezing drizzle/rain and sleet... i really trust TWC short term and they put a big blob of ice right over Dallas tomorrow (sunday) theres alot more moisture out by el paso and New Mexico heading our way... look at all the moisture in West Texas now... this is only the begining and still sites and dallas are reporting freezing mist and terrel (east Dallas) is reporting moderate freezing rain and 26 degrees.. the frozen precip has been spotty but some spots have been picking up constant freezing precipitation since 9 am.. this is just the beginning and i expect tonight and tomorrow morning to get worse...