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#61 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:13 am

just think if that was over water! We would be watching a sysem :ggreen:
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#62 Postby senorpepr » Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:31 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:just think if that was over water! We would be watching a sysem :ggreen:


An extratropical system, sure.
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#63 Postby Mezocyclone » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:55 am

I am personally amazed at why there is so much opposition to a reality that continues to develop in the Southern Atlantic Ocean.. There are transitions ocurring all over the Planet and still we have those that aspire to down playing the increases in tropical activity below 01N...

The Naked Truth is that there are changes taking place all over our Planet and some folks are bent over backwards in denial of an Ocean change.. Don't we all agree on a simple fact that our weather is defined by the waters that surround our land masses??

Fresh water infiltrations in the Northern areas on large scales are becoming a serious influence in the Gulf Streams circulation around the Atlantic Ridge, displayed by Earth's changes in Europe and the record Temps that have brought major concerns to Eastern locations in recent weeks..

I am not going to introduce the thought that the Planet might be tilting on its Axis,,, but does anyone else have a thought about why we are beginning to experience so many unusual anomalies?
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#64 Postby senorpepr » Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:39 am

I don't think anyone is saying that a system cannot form in the South Atlantic. I am certainly not--it has happened before and will happen again. However, we the meteorological parameters are NOT in favor for tropical development, I tend to believe that tropical development will not occur. That is what the story is. The original system that was commented on in this thread was NOT a tropical storm, as mentioned in the thread title. It was nothing more than an ordinary wave of convection along the ITCZ. Furthermore, the system over south-central Africa contains baroclinic features.

The "naked truth" is we'll call it as it is. The original system commented on in this thread was never a "tropical storm" nor was it ever a "tropical cyclone." This has nothing to do with it's location. This could be at 10N and the same comments would be made.
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#65 Postby Jim Hughes » Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:29 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:Looking at the latest satelllite shows it developing convection over The "LLC". At the rate of the formation we could very well see a tropical cyclone out of this. Can't rule it out.

https://afweather.afwa.af.mil/images/sa ... 19IR_L.GIF


I need to pull up one of my prior discussions from way back. I believe I was talking about the AMO and I specifically mention the possibility of a SA system forming during this upcoming year. I believe I thought it was QBO related. Nothing yet of course but it bears watching.


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#66 Postby Jim Hughes » Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:07 pm

Here is my discussion from back on December 7th. It is unfortunately in the Global Weather Forum just like a good deal of my other discussions.

" Space Weather, Coronal Holes, Hurricanes, South Atlantic"

I did not specifically forecast one for this year, in this post, but I do talk about the reasons why prior SA storms have formed and the variables. This years eastern QBO would be conducive for development. We also have been under the influence of a coronal hole/windstream the past four days.


http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?=79228


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#67 Postby TheEuropean » Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:49 pm

The systems in the southern atlantic have nothing to do with space weather.


Jim Hughes wrote:Here is my discussion from back on December 7th. It is unfortunately in the Global Weather Forum just like a good deal of my other discussions.

" Space Weather, Coronal Holes, Hurricanes, South Atlantic"

I did not specifically forecast one for this year, in this post, but I do talk about the reasons why prior SA storms have formed and the variables. This years eastern QBO would be conducive for development. We also have been under the influence of a coronal hole/windstream the past four days.


http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?=79228


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#68 Postby Jim Hughes » Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:03 pm

TheEuropean wrote:The systems in the southern atlantic have nothing to do with space weather.




Your entitled to your opinion. I suppose you think it has no effect on any type of weather or climate pattern?



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#69 Postby rainstorm » Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:06 pm

great work matthew
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#70 Postby TheEuropean » Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:06 pm

Jim Hughes wrote:
TheEuropean wrote:The systems in the southern atlantic have nothing to do with space weather.




Your entitled to your opinion. I suppose you think it has no effect on any type of weather or climate pattern?



Jim



Not a single event like a storm or coronal hole. The activity of the sun has an effect on the earth climate, but not on each single weather system on the earth.
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#71 Postby senorpepr » Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:09 pm

rainstorm wrote:great work matthew
Just so you know, the storm Matthew commented on in this thread is not the same as 90L/90Q/whatever. However, I do want to say, it is nice to see him keeping a good eye open, globally. For that, I salute him.
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#72 Postby Jim Hughes » Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:32 pm

senorpepr wrote:
rainstorm wrote:great work matthew
Just so you know, the storm Matthew commented on in this thread is not the same as 90L/90Q/whatever. However, I do want to say, it is nice to see him keeping a good eye open, globally. For that, I salute him.


I know it's nothing Mike. I was just posting something about what I said a while back about the stratosphere etc... this seasons QBO.


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#73 Postby Jim Hughes » Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:37 pm

TheEuropean wrote:
Jim Hughes wrote:
TheEuropean wrote:The systems in the southern atlantic have nothing to do with space weather.




Your entitled to your opinion. I suppose you think it has no effect on any type of weather or climate pattern?



Jim



Not a single event like a storm or coronal hole. The activity of the sun has an effect on the earth climate, but not on each single weather system on the earth.



I beg to differ. The cyclical nature of certain things point towards this. If you read Baranyi's research papers, which I have previouusly posted URL's for , you will see that certain areas/low pressures DO get effected and other areas do not.



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#74 Postby senorpepr » Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:46 pm

Jim Hughes wrote:
senorpepr wrote:
rainstorm wrote:great work matthew
Just so you know, the storm Matthew commented on in this thread is not the same as 90L/90Q/whatever. However, I do want to say, it is nice to see him keeping a good eye open, globally. For that, I salute him.


I know it's nothing Mike. I was just posting something about what I said a while back about the stratosphere etc... this seasons QBO.


Jim


Oh... my comments were not directed toward you whatsoever. I'm glad you're coming in here and making the connections... and thanks for the work you do both in here and in the Global forum.
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