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#341 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:17 pm

alrite im new at this so can anyone tell me in basic words wether its looking like it will be an El Nino year or a La Nina or a nuetral
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#342 Postby JonathanBelles » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:23 pm

heading for a weak nuetral year i think
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#343 Postby MiamiensisWx » Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:19 pm

I think a La Nina, but a very weak one at most.
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#344 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:28 pm

CapeVerdeWave wrote:I think a La Nina, but a very weak one at most.


true dat...thats what I was thinking
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#345 Postby cycloneye » Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:17 pm

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The latest update of the Pacific anomalys show the weak La Nina hanging on despite a small warm pocket that is located close to the SouthAmerican coast.

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In the Atlantic side no big changes from last weeks data with scattered pockets of warm and cool anomalys in the Atlantic.Still persists the area of warm anomalies in the GOM.

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Above is the graphic of the GOM and the loop current.Also you can see how the Gulfstream waters are.
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#346 Postby ROCK » Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:24 pm

The loop current looks healthy. You can definitely tell where Kat and Rita got there fuel from.
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#347 Postby cycloneye » Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:20 pm

The above graphic at this page which shows the Pacific anomalies indicate a bit more stronger La Nina than in the past 2 weeks if you look at the numbers of between -1.0c to -1.5c.Those yellows indicating warm anomalies are almost gone at el Nino 1-2 area.
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#348 Postby MiamiensisWx » Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:24 pm

I still think the La Nina will weaken by summer, resulting in a weak La Nina. The main reason I think so is because of how long the La Nina has been here and how prone to fluctuations it is.
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#349 Postby f5 » Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:31 pm

the loop current extends all the way to the SE louisiana coast if that hangs on by August&September and another Katrina comes along N.O may finally get the REAL worst case scenario
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#350 Postby windycity » Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:51 pm

I hear ya, the loop looks bigger than iv ever seen it, plus with the SSTs in the NGOM ,scary thought.
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#351 Postby f5 » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:33 pm

N.O can't afford another Hurricane like the one in CapeVerdeWave's avatar.worst case scenario means from 1 storm but when its one after the other like Flordia been experienceing it becomes a psychological nightmere .NO officals don't want to have to keep pumping and repumping water out of the city every single time a Katrina or Rita type storm comes roaring through the GOM
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#352 Postby f5 » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:37 pm

notice the loop current extends to the SE louisiana coast that tounge of deep warm water stretches along exactly the worst case scenario track for N.O the ESE
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#353 Postby Scorpion » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:17 pm

CapeVerdeWave wrote:I still think the La Nina will weaken by summer, resulting in a weak La Nina. The main reason I think so is because of how long the La Nina has been here and how prone to fluctuations it is.


La Nina hasnt been there for awhile. There is nothing out there that will automatically cause the anomolies to go up. If anything it will likely be stronger.
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#354 Postby MiamiensisWx » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:19 pm

I think La Nina has been here since October... it just was not "officially" designated as a La Nina until January. Also, it is too early to say that it won't weaken.
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#355 Postby cycloneye » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:28 pm

it is too early to say that it won't weaken.


Yes CapeVerdeWave it's too early to say for sure what will the ENSO conditions be when the hurricane season reaches it's peak although some ENSO models haved predicted a return to Neutral conditions.We have to wait around 2-3 months to see how the anomalies are doing and then we can make our analysis about this factor.
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#356 Postby Seele » Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:02 pm

It's kind of interesting looking at the SST anomalies compared to a year ago, even though it really doesn't mean much this far out. Not much difference in the Atlantic but overall a bit cooler this year. Also notice there was a warm spot in the GoM last year too. It was a little weaker and a bit further east.

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#357 Postby AussieMark » Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:09 pm

CapeVerdeWave wrote:I think La Nina has been here since October... it just was not "officially" designated as a La Nina until January. Also, it is too early to say that it won't weaken.


to be La Nina the anomality index has to be at least -0.5C I think

in August it was 0.0C
in September it was 0.0C
in October it was -0.2C
in November it was -0.4C
in December it was -0.7C

so technically December was the start of it
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#358 Postby cycloneye » Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:46 pm

Seele wrote:It's kind of interesting looking at the SST anomalies compared to a year ago, even though it really doesn't mean much this far out. Not much difference in the Atlantic but overall a bit cooler this year. Also notice there was a warm spot in the GoM last year too. It was a little weaker and a bit further east.

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Yes I agree about the Atlantic Basin especially between Africa and the Lesser Antilles not being as warm as last year by this time.Let's see if this trend holds up as we enter the summer months.
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#359 Postby MiamiensisWx » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:38 pm

The La Nina has weakened in it's western reaches west of and near 180W. Look how much that area continues to warm up! Notice that?
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#360 Postby cycloneye » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:44 pm

CapeVerdeWave wrote:The La Nina has weakened in it's western reaches west of and near 180W. Look how much that area continues to warm up! Notice that?


CapeVerdeWave I think you saw the 2005 graphic above where it shows up that way.The 2006 one is the first one of the 2 graphics posted and shows a different data.
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