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Islamic Web Site Warns of "2 Attacks" Coming

#1 Postby canegrl04 » Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:24 pm

Designed to bring America "to your knees" .They said the attacks are all ready to go off. I hope this is another phoney,but have a funny feeling its not :eek: What worries me is that unlike the other hoaxes,they did not say where or when the attacks would happen
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#2 Postby Lindaloo » Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:55 pm

Yeah yeah yeah. Bring it on. :mad:
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#3 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:00 pm

Which Islamic website are you referring to?
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#4 Postby canegrl04 » Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:26 pm

Its from this story : http://www.worldnetdaily.com


t reminds me of the time OBL sent a video tape warning to the US just weeks before 9/11
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#5 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:32 pm

This is from the article... listen to this!

The threat suggests the attack will be far greater in magnitude than Sept. 11, 2001, because following this one, "there will be no one to analyze and investigate, because the mind and the heart will be unable to comprehend it. ... This will not be a single operation, but two; one bigger than the other, but we will begin with the big one and postpone the bigger one, in order to see [how] diligent the American people is [in preserving] its life. If it chooses life, [it must] carry out the demands of the Muslims, and if it chooses death, then we are its best perpetrators."
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#6 Postby canegrl04 » Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:37 pm

This does not sound like the usual terror threat .They send a specific message,but give no details about where or when (like OBL before 9/11)

I hope it can be stopped because what they are saying is scary
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#7 Postby nystate » Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:00 pm

Boooooring. How many times have we heard this before? At least as many times as our threat level has been raised to Orange...
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#8 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:04 pm

Why is this turning out like the Cold War all over again?
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#9 Postby sunny » Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:09 pm

Myself, I listen or read the threat and go, okay, here we go again. We have heard these threats so many times since 9/11 that it has almost become, I don't know, normal.
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#10 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:17 pm

What I most fear is how what the site said will likely become a political football that gets nothing solved... I can't wait to see the conspiracy theories blossom...

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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#11 Postby Brent » Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:42 pm

*yawn*

Sorry... but I'm so over these threats.

FWIW... today's the 2 year anniversary of the Madrid train bombings.
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#12 Postby JonathanBelles » Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:42 pm

im starting to believe this threat
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#13 Postby Brent » Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:44 pm

canegrl04 wrote:it reminds me of the time OBL sent a video tape warning to the US just weeks before 9/11


and how many times since 9/11 has OBL or Zarqawi threatened the U.S. since?
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#14 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Sat Mar 11, 2006 4:21 pm

im starting to believe this threat


I don't know for sure, but I'm kind of believing them them to. But they have said threats like this before I wouldn't start panicing.
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#15 Postby JonathanBelles » Sat Mar 11, 2006 4:23 pm

true HH914
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#16 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sat Mar 11, 2006 4:56 pm

They have made many warning but, this one seems more different than the others...
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#17 Postby sunny » Sat Mar 11, 2006 4:59 pm

I don't really see where this one is any more significant than any of the others. They all claim "this one will be worse than 9/11", "your streets will run with blood". yada, yada, yada. It's no different. Furthermore, al-Qaida's normal stamp is attacks in threes, not twos.
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#18 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:22 pm

ok here we go ... lets get some backround on where the report is from

GLOBAL JIHAD
Islamic websites carry
al-Qaida's 'last warning'
Threat of 2 operations designed
to bring Americans 'to your knees'

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Posted: March 11, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern



© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

WASHINGTON – Islamic websites yesterday posted a "last warning" warning by Rakan Ben Williams, who describes himself as an "al-Qaida undercover soldier" in the U.S., threatening two major operations designed to bring Americans "to your knees."

According to the Middle East Media Research Institute, the Global Islamic Media Front was responsible for posting the threat.
Williams is a mystery man, who, according to the London Arabic newspaper Al-Sharq Al-Awsat, is an English convert to Islam.

The threat suggests the attack will be far greater in magnitude than Sept. 11, 2001, because following this one, "there will be no one to analyze and investigate, because the mind and the heart will be unable to comprehend it. ... This will not be a single operation, but two; one bigger than the other, but we will begin with the big one and postpone the bigger one, in order to see [how] diligent the American people is [in preserving] its life. If it chooses life, [it must] carry out the demands of the Muslims, and if it chooses death, then we are its best perpetrators."

The warning appeared in Arabic and in English.

"Do not put your hopes on Bush and his clan, they are incapable of protecting you, and if they think they are, let them foil or stop the two upcoming operations, and punish those who are responsible for them," says the statement. "But if they could not identify and foil the devastating events coming your way, you must ask yourselves: How long will we continue allowing ourselves to be slaughtered with full advance knowledge of our fate?

"Let me now inform you why we opted to inform you about the two operations and your inability to stop them before they are carried out. The reason is simple: You cannot uncover or stop them except by letting them be carried out. Furthermore, the best you could do would be to accelerate the day of carrying out the operations. In other words, if we schedule the operation to take place tomorrow, the best you could do is to make it happen today."

The spokesman claims the operations are inevitable – even if the specific plans are uncovered by authorities.

"This indeed is a sweet situation to be in," he says. "It is a win-win all the way for us. It is the ultimate control and the most stunning way to stop an operation (accelerating it with the same impact). What we are saying is this: You will have a choice of either let us carry it out on our own schedule and with our own hands or allow your own intelligence apparatus to cause it to happen. This second choice will cause a level of dissatisfaction (with your decision makers) to reach its highest level. Therefore, your Homeland Security agencies would have no choice but to surrender and wait for the inevitable to happen."

Williams asserts, he "will not give any more clues; this is enough as a wake up call. Perhaps the American people will start thinking about the magnitude of the danger that is coming their way."

The statement also appears to be an attempt to divide Americans by region.

"O you helpless Americans, especially those living in States far away from Washington, D.C.!" he says. "Your country is comprised of many states that should not have anything to do with Muslims. Take the state of Arizona for example; what does this state have to do with killing Muslims in Palestine, Afghanistan and Iraq? What interest is it of theirs serving, helping, and siding with the Jews and Israel? If some members of your Congress and Senate are being used as Jewish tools manipulated by Israel, why do you bear the consequences? Why do you bring death and destruction to your homes and lives in an apparent sacrifice for a handful of dishonest men and women?"

The statement says the operations are awaiting only a final order from Osama bin Laden.

"The operations are ready to go, we are just waiting for orders from the commander in chief, Osama bin Laden (may Allah preserve him)," it says. "He will decide whether to strike or to hold. We swear by Allah that there are so many tricks and tactical maneuvers that will make your heads spin, by the grace of Allah. You will be brought to your knees, but not until you lose more loved ones and experience significant destruction."

It continues: "Now is the time to wake up and dust off this state of complacency and ineffectiveness to save yourselves and your loved ones from catastrophes sure to come your way. Remove war mongers from positions of power and throw them in prisons, where they belong. Rid yourselves of 'the Jewish pests' that brought nothing to you but adversity and loss of lives and wealth. They have deceived you for many years, it is time now you turn the table on them and make an example out of them. Rid yourselves of media crafters who deliberately kept you in the dark for so long and made a mockery of you before the rest of the world."

The statement calls for a boycott of NBC and CBS because of their Jewish owners. It calls on Americans to watch al-Jazeera and to visit Islamic websites "to get educated."

"Visit Mujahideen web sites to get to know who they are," it suggests. "You will see for yourselves that they are not what your media outlets made you believe they are. If you cannot do that, the least you could do is to watch Al-Jazeera Channel; there you might get 20 percent or less of the truth about the war zones. Resent the corrupted politicians in Washington, D.C. and demand justice, if they do not give in to your demands, you must declare autonomy so you may live in peace and security."

Williams calls the statement "the last warning you will receive from us. Consequently, if you ignore it, we regret to inform you that we will carry out devastating operations against the states of America and we will not show mercy whatsoever."

Ok so now we find out who this Middle East Media Research Institue is and who it is owned by.

http://www.memri.org/copyright.html

That is the site for MEMRI

here is some additional information on the company
http://www.answers.com/topic/middle-eas ... -institute

"Quoted from the article...

The Middle East Media Research Institute (German name identical, Hebrew name המכון לחקר התקשורת המזרח התיכון, abbreviated ממר"י), or MEMRI for short, is an organization headquartered in Washington, DC, with branch offices in Jerusalem, Berlin, Brussels, Moscow, and London, and a Media Center in Jerusalem. It was cofounded by its president Yigal Carmon (יגאל כרמון) a former colonel in Israeli military intelligence, and Dr. Meyrav Wurmser.

MEMRI was established in February 1998. Its stated objective then, according to its website, was "to study and analyze Middle East intellectual developments and politics and the Arab-Israeli conflict, with particular emphasis on its Israeli-Palestinian dimension" and "dedicated to the proposition that the values of liberal democracy, civil society, and the free market are relevant to the Middle East and to United States foreign policy towards the region." [1] Today its objective is stated as "to inform the debate over U.S. policy in the Middle East."

Professor of Modern Middle East and South Asian History at the University of Michigan Juan Cole claimed that although MEMRI describes itself as an "independent, nonpartisan, nonprofit, 501(c)3 organization", it is aligned with the goals of Israel's Likud party and that it attempts to influence public policy in North America and Europe by presenting a distorted and highly selective view of Arab media. MEMRI's president Carmon maintains that "MEMRI is totally unaffiliated with any government, and receives no government funding. While I was formerly an Israeli official (and retired more than a decade ago), I have never been affiliated with the Likud Party, or any other party."[2].

MEMRI is one of the few free sources of English language translations of material published in Arabic and Persian; it can thus be seen as providing a view into Arab and Iranian media that is often otherwise unavailable to English speakers who are not literate in those languages. The organisation became more prominent after the September 11, 2001 attacks, due to increased Western public interest in Arab and Iranian affairs. At that time, it expanded its staff considerably, setting up new branches abroad in early 2002. MEMRI is regularly quoted by major American newspapers, including The New York Times, The New Yorker (magazine), the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, and European ones including The Guardian and Irish Times, although not always in a positive light.


MEMRI Staff
In its original website of 1998, MEMRI listed 6 staff members: its President and cofounder Yigal Carmon, cofounder Meyrav Wurmser (Executive Director), Aaron Mannes (Director of Research), Yotam Feldner (Director of Media Analysis), Stacey Lakind (Research Associate), and Aluma Solnick (Research Associate). Stacey Lakind left in late 1998, and Aaron Mannes in early 2001; the others were still MEMRI staff as of October 5, 2001, when MEMRI stopped listing its employees on its website. Meyrav Wurmser left in early 2002 to join the Hudson Institute; she was replaced as Executive Director by Steven Stalinsky.

It now has a much larger number of employees ("17, plus translators" in January 2002[3], "over 30" in August 2002 of which 20 translators, current number unknown); citing bomb threats, it provides no information on their identities, beyond stating that they are "of different nationalities" and sometimes including by-lines on reports.


MEMRI Projects
MEMRI runs several press monitoring projects on specific topics. Its currently ongoing projects are called: "Arab Anti-Semitism Documentation Project", "Jihad and Terrorism Studies Project", "US and the Middle East", "Reform in the Arab and Muslim World", "Arab-Israeli Conflict" (all since 1998), "Inter-Arab Relations" (since 1999), "Economic Studies" (since 2001). In 2004, it launched the "Arab TV Monitoring Project".

In addition to press translations, it regularly publishes media analyses and "in-depth studies" relating to Middle Eastern affairs. It "distributes them, free of charge, by fax and email" (current site) to (according to its 1998 website) "Congresspersons, congressional staffers, policy makers, journalists, academics, and interested parties."


Criticism of MEMRI
The accuracy of MEMRI's translations is sometimes disputed; for example, Brian Whitaker, in an email debate with Yigal Carmon, accuses the institute of making "annoying, dishonest little tweaks" in its translations and presentations thereof. Professor Juan Cole has accused the institute of "cleverly cherry-pick[ing] the vast Arabic press, which serves 300 million people, for the most extreme and objectionable articles and editorials".

A controversy also arose over MEMRI's interpretation[4] of the 2004 Osama bin Laden video. The video was released just before the 2004 U.S. Presidential Election and mentioned the candidates by name. MEMRI and others suggested that bin Laden intended to use the video to influence the American political process. Juan Cole disputed this conclusion. His objections centered around MEMRI's translation of a sentence at the end of bin Laden's statement: "...your security is not in the hands of Kerry, nor Bush, nor al-Qaeda. No. Your security is in your own hands. And every state [wilayah] that doesn't play with our security has automatically guaranteed its own security." MEMRI's interpretation of the video held that bin Laden's use of the word wilaya (literally meaning province or administrative district) referred to individual U.S. states, implying that bin Laden was attempting to manipulate the American political process by threatening to attack US states that voted for Bush but sparing US states that voted for Kerry. Yigal Carmon's article defending MEMRI's translation can be found in this article in the National Review Online. [5] Cole argued that while bin Laden's word choice was "odd", MEMRI's conclusion was "impossible". [6] [7]

The owners of this company are from Yigal Carmon profile

Yigal Carmon (Hebrew יגאל כרמון) is the president and founder of the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI). He was a colonel in the Israel Defense Forces reserves.

According to MEMRI's original site:

He served in the IDF/Intelligence Branch from 1968 to 1988. From 1977 to 1982 he was the Acting Head of Civil Administration in Judea and Samaria and the Advisor on Arab Affairs to the Civil Administration. Following Col. Carmon’s retirement from the IDF he was Advisor to Premiers Shamir and Rabin for Countering Terrorism from 1988 to 1993. In 1991 and 1992 he was a senior member of the Israeli Delegation to peace negotiations with Syria in Madrid and Washington.
During his time in Military Intelligence, he became a senior officer of its Unit 504, a small secret unit dedicated to human intelligence which was particularly active in Lebanon[1] and administers Facility 1391, a prison described by critics as "Israel's Guantanamo". Between 1994-1996, he argued that "public declarations made by Arafat and his associates contradicted the spirit of the Oslo accords and reflected their genuine intentions." (Yossi Melman)

Now I have yet to hear mention of these coming attacks anywhere else but, from this site... Can someone get me a link of another news agecy who is reporting on this?
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#19 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:28 pm

and PS who is the global media front?

Global Islamic Media Front
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#20 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:01 pm

if they do carry out this attack, our response must be nothing short than the total devastation of Mecca and Medina, and I mean total destruction. This seems like they are planning a WMD attack based upon the threat, so our response should be to destroy their core myths and values
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