Bay Saint Louis

[Jim Cantore]

I haven't gotten any wind gusts reports from that area, does anyone know what the highest gust was?

[MGC]

To my knowledge all the instruments were destroyed or lost power hours before the strongest winds arrived.....MGC

[brunota2003]

my question though...to prevent another topic being started... why dont they have batterys like on the bouys on these instruments? if they know the power is going to go out, at least have something in place where we can save the data that is battery backed-up, so after the hurricane makes landfall, we still get the data...it would be helpful...and the battery could be solar charged...just a thought / my $0.02

[george_r_1961]

my question though...to prevent another topic being started... why dont they have batterys like on the bouys on these instruments? if they know the power is going to go out, at least have something in place where we can save the data that is battery backed-up, so after the hurricane makes landfall, we still get the data...it would be helpful...and the battery could be solar charged...just a thought / my $0.02

Im not sure the lack of power is what is causing these instruments to fail. I think the wind is destroying them.

[terstorm1012]

The wind and waves destroyed many of the buoys.

Katrina and Rita took out a wide swath of buoys as they passed them. Threw em around like ragdolls. I assume they've been replaced by now, NOAA does have a good crew of ships.

[swamp rat]

Slidell La. had sustained winds of 176 gusting to 190

[Jim Cantore]

Slidell La. had sustained winds of 176 gusting to 190

from Katrina??????

[george_r_1961]

Slidell La. had sustained winds of 176 gusting to 190

from Katrina??????

I dont think so

[swamp rat]

I was just quoting our mayor. Slidell has a national weather station at the airport. If you were here you would believe it trust me when I say it was a wild ride

[george_r_1961]

I was just quoting our mayor. Slidell has a national weather station at the airport. If you were here you would believe it trust me when I say it was a wild ride

Sorry I wasnt trying to sound rude. I was up that monday morning that Katrina came ashore monitoring the storm and in my opinion sustained winds that high were very unlikely. More than likely the mayor recieved erroneous information.

[facemane]

I was just quoting our mayor. Slidell has a national weather station at the airport. If you were here you would believe it trust me when I say it was a wild ride

The only way that could have happened is for the station to have been hit
a tornado. Katrina was A horrible storm, but she did not have substained
winds of 175 when she came ashore. All reliable data proves that fact.

[vbhoutex]

I understand that the 176/190 was "unofficial" and I have no idea if it happened. But to unequicvocally state that something didn't happen that has been reported by officials is questionable unless you have proof that it did not happen. What many seem to forget is that it could have happened and in just that one little spot that happened to record it when no where else did. Again, I have no idea whether it did happen or not, but I certainly am not going to state that it did not happen at that spot without proof in my hands, especially when it was initially reported as official early on. And yes it is quite possible that if it did happen that it was a tornado, but without proof...???

[swamp rat]

I did not think you were being rude,it very well could have been a twister, I had 3 within 30 yds. of my house and I live 2 miles south of the airport. I think she will be reclassified though.

[skysummit]

Many of the "higher" wind reports were not used because of "inaccuracy". Most of the other instruments failed when the winds got to be a certain speed so no telling how high they were....then Katrina was "downgraded". Ok...not getting in this debate again

[Jim Cantore]

The only thing I can think of that would have gotten a 190mph gust would have been a tornado, thats all I can think of.

[george_r_1961]

I understand that the 176/190 was "unofficial" and I have no idea if it happened. But to unequicvocally state that something didn't happen that has been reported by officials is questionable unless you have proof that it did not happen. What many seem to forget is that it could have happened and in just that one little spot that happened to record it when no where else did. Again, I have no idea whether it did happen or not, but I certainly am not going to state that it did not happen at that spot without proof in my hands, especially when it was initially reported as official early on. And yes it is quite possible that if it did happen that it was a tornado, but without proof...???

David I was up all that sunday nite well into monday afternoon watching Katrina. With the pressure rising steadily in the hours before landfall I doubt very seriously they experienced winds that high. Since sustained winds are based on a one minute average I also do not think it is likely a tornado caused winds this high since any tornadoes forming would be moving VERY quickly they wouldnt be over any one location long enough to cause a one minute average that high. But thats my opinion. Of course I could be wrong.

[swamp rat]

Iam not trying to start an argument but do you remember the pics of the menhaden or "pogie" boats on the Empire bridge? My cousin rode the storm out on one of them he said 175 gusting over 200. All I know is this, she was worse than Camille

[Ixolib]

Iam not trying to start an argument but do you remember the pics of the menhaden or "pogie" boats on the Empire bridge? My cousin rode the storm out on one of them he said 175 gusting over 200. All I know is this, she was worse than Camille

And the saga continues... and continues... and continues...

Rat, just be careful where you want to go with this as it will most probably bring extreme debate - on both sides of the issue.

Anybody got any popcorn!!

[vbhoutex]

I understand that the 176/190 was "unofficial" and I have no idea if it happened. But to unequicvocally state that something didn't happen that has been reported by officials is questionable unless you have proof that it did not happen. What many seem to forget is that it could have happened and in just that one little spot that happened to record it when no where else did. Again, I have no idea whether it did happen or not, but I certainly am not going to state that it did not happen at that spot without proof in my hands, especially when it was initially reported as official early on. And yes it is quite possible that if it did happen that it was a tornado, but without proof...???

David I was up all that sunday nite well into monday afternoon watching Katrina. With the pressure rising steadily in the hours before landfall I doubt very seriously they experienced winds that high. Since sustained winds are based on a one minute average I also do not think it is likely a tornado caused winds this high since any tornadoes forming would be moving VERY quickly they wouldnt be over any one location long enough to cause a one minute average that high. But thats my opinion. Of course I could be wrong.

DOH!!!! on the sustained winds and a tornado!!!!

[MGC]

The water flooded the instruments near the beach. Power failure of debris strikes caused the remainder to fail. I stopped at the Harrison County EOC at the courthouse in Gulfport last week. I talked to one of the men that rode out Katrina. He said the wind was around 125MPH sustained before the instrument failed due to debris. Sure enough one of the cups is missing. The annometer is at about 90 feet so the reading is not at standard height. I also noticed while crossing the new bridge across Bayou Potage just north of Pass Christian that the annometer on that bridge was beat up so debris got it too......MGC