Major tornado outbreak next Thursday?

U.S. & Caribbean Weather Discussions and Severe Weather Events

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Forum rules

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K.

Help Support Storm2K
Message
Author
6SpeedTA95
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1206
Joined: Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:25 pm
Location: Oklahoma
Contact:

#421 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:12 am

Extremeweatherguy wrote:I don't think that this should have been a HIGH RISK day. I have seen worse SLIGHT RISK events.


I think the MDT was 100% justified and the High box was also justified based on the indicators leading up to the event. The overcast skies much of the morning and afternoon kept yesterday from being bad. A few degrees makes all the difference in the world and we missed our forcast high temps by anywhere from 3 to 6* depending on where in the state you were. Basically it was just one variable that didn't work out that caused yesterday to be more of a flop in terms of ultra severe weather, but there is significant wind damage from central kansas to souther oklahoma and into western missouri and arkansas. Most of this from straightline winds but there were some tornadoes. I think they were probably justified in their high risk assessment.
0 likes   

User avatar
Gorky
Category 1
Category 1
Posts: 334
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:23 am
Location: Scarborough, North Yorkshire, UK

#422 Postby Gorky » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:44 am

The thing about yesterday, is it was either going to happen in a big way, or barely at all. In the end, only 1 real supercell dropped tornadoes in the original high risk box area, and it dropped 13 times. If every cell had done that, we'd have had a pretty big outbreak and they'd have been justified at putting 60% tornado risk :P I don't think the SPC were going to win. They went for the middle ground and it was either going to be underforecast, or overforecast either way. I know I didn't have the guts to come on here and forecast a moderate risk, when everyone and their dogs were talking about Super Outbreak II. The most I could bring myself to say was I woudn't be surprised if the tornadoes didn't materialise and it became a wind/hail event. I certainly understand the SPC's predicament. They did in the end only just up it to the bare minimum TOR threat required for a high risk, but that doubled their predicted TOR chance. In the end, I don't think they shold have done the last minute upgrade to high, but I don't think I, or anyone else, would have done any different in that position
0 likes   

Matt-hurricanewatcher

#423 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:11 am

Lets see if we can get our outbreak today?
0 likes   

6SpeedTA95
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1206
Joined: Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:25 pm
Location: Oklahoma
Contact:

#424 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:12 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:Lets see if we can get our outbreak today?


Looks more like an MCS event today
0 likes   

Matt-hurricanewatcher

#425 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:27 am

The spc is saying high risk today...In going nuts for tornado's I think they better stop doing this or they will start misleading people. If this is a bust then people will not take it seriously.
0 likes   

Matt-hurricanewatcher

#426 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:36 am

Hail Reports (in CSV format)
Time Size Location County State Lat Lon Comments
1305 125 TUNICA TUNICA MS 3469 9038 HALF DOLLAR SIZE HAIL ALONG HIGHWAY 61 (MEG)
1332 125 SOUTHAVEN DESOTO MS 3497 9000 (MEG)
1339 88 WHITEHAVEN SHELBY TN 3502 9003 NICKEL SIZE HAIL NEAR THE MEMPHIS INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT AT TCHULAHOMA AND WINCHESTER. (MEG)
1345 175 5 N GERMANTOWN SHELBY TN 3516 8979 GOLF BALL SIZE HAIL REPORTED IN CORDOVA (MEG)
0 likes   

6SpeedTA95
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1206
Joined: Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:25 pm
Location: Oklahoma
Contact:

#427 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:39 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:The spc is saying high risk today...In going nuts for tornado's I think they better stop doing this or they will start misleading people. If this is a bust then people will not take it seriously.


Just remember a high risk of severe weather doesn't necessarily mean a high risk for tornadoes. I do think there will be tornadoes but I dont think we're looking at a super outbreak. I thnk their risk box is probably about right for where we can expect tornadoes. I think we're probably looking at fewer than 25 tornadoes today.
0 likes   

Matt-hurricanewatcher

#428 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:42 am

Last sunday and march 12th where both moderate risk.
0 likes   

CrazyC83
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 34002
Joined: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:57 pm
Location: Deep South, for the first time!

#429 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:19 am

March 12 was a high risk. It was nailed correctly.
0 likes   

Matt-hurricanewatcher

#430 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:34 am

ok
0 likes   

User avatar
senorpepr
Military Met/Moderator
Military Met/Moderator
Posts: 12542
Age: 43
Joined: Fri Aug 22, 2003 9:22 pm
Location: Mackenbach, Germany
Contact:

#431 Postby senorpepr » Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:58 pm

Remeber... it only takes a 30% CHANCE of a tornado developing for a high risk to be issued. With one tornado forning, that verifies the area.
0 likes   

User avatar
senorpepr
Military Met/Moderator
Military Met/Moderator
Posts: 12542
Age: 43
Joined: Fri Aug 22, 2003 9:22 pm
Location: Mackenbach, Germany
Contact:

#432 Postby senorpepr » Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:00 pm

senorpepr wrote:Remeber... it only takes a 30% CHANCE of a tornado developing for a high risk to be issued. With one tornado forning, that verifies the area.
To piggy back on that...

In a high risk, the potential exists for 20 or more tornadoes, some possibly F2 or stronger, or an extreme derecho potentially causing widespread wind damage and higher end wind gusts (80+ mph) that may result in structural damage.

There were 19 reported yesterday....
0 likes   

Matt-hurricanewatcher

#433 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:02 pm

I thought it was 20 tornado's with at least 2 f3s or higher?
0 likes   

User avatar
alicia-w
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 6400
Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:55 pm
Location: Tijeras, NM

#434 Postby alicia-w » Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:08 pm

The HIGH risk area almost always means a major severe weather outbreak is expected, with great coverage of severe weather and enhanced likelihood of extreme severe (i.e., violent tornadoes or extreme convective wind events over a large area). Within a high risk area, expect at least 20 tornadoes with at least 2 of them rated F3+, or an extreme derecho causing 50+ widespread wind events (50+) with numerous higher end wind (80+ mph) and structural damage reports.

According to this site:
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/misc/about.html ... 0of%20Risk[/url]
0 likes   


Return to “USA & Caribbean Weather”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 23 guests