Flipping cars?

This is the general tropical discussion area. Anyone can take their shot at predicting a storms path.

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Forum rules

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K. For official information, please refer to products from the National Hurricane Center and National Weather Service.

Help Support Storm2K
Message
Author
User avatar
Bocadude85
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2990
Age: 38
Joined: Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:20 pm
Location: Honolulu,Hi

Flipping cars?

#1 Postby Bocadude85 » Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:57 pm

What wind speed do you think it would take to start flipping cars over?

http://www.ultimatechase.com/Hurricane_Video.htm


The first video in that link shows Hurricane Wilma hitting Miami Beach and Ft Lauderdale beach...... notice all the cars flipped over.
0 likes   

User avatar
Extremeweatherguy
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 11095
Joined: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:13 pm
Location: Florida

#2 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Wed Apr 19, 2006 10:17 pm

Well it really depends on the angle of the winds in relation to the vehicles. It also depends on the vehicles height and weight as well. My estimate (on a general scale) would be:

-65 to 75mph for semi trucks
-90 to 100mph for SUVs
-105 to 120mph for typical cars
<<I believe Wilma had 105-115mph gusts in the Miami area.

**These numbers are if the vehicles are exposed directly to the wind. These numbers are also not official and are backed by no scientific evidence, just observation of different car flipping incidents during different levels of wind.**
0 likes   

Jim Cantore

#3 Postby Jim Cantore » Wed Apr 19, 2006 10:28 pm

I remember a urgent shout out from the NOLA NWS when Katrina was a 5 mentioning that cars could go airborne, that would be quite a sight to behold :eek:
0 likes   

User avatar
Extremeweatherguy
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 11095
Joined: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:13 pm
Location: Florida

#4 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:01 pm

Hurricane Floyd wrote:I remember a urgent shout out from the NOLA NWS when Katrina was a 5 mentioning that cars could go airborne, that would be quite a sight to behold :eek:
I doubt that would have happened. The cars may have rolled around...but to go airborne and fly around, there would have to be an upward component to the wind (like in a tornado). Still, rolling cars would certaintly be a scary sight. Once again though...for this to happen the cars would need to be open to the wind.
0 likes   

Jim Cantore

#5 Postby Jim Cantore » Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:02 pm

Imagine an airborne car flying into a house at 200mph :eek:
0 likes   

User avatar
melhow
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 362
Joined: Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:00 pm
Location: Safety Harbor, FL

#6 Postby melhow » Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:54 am

Hurricane Floyd wrote:Imagine an airborne car flying into a house at 200mph :eek:


1.21 jigawatts? 1.21 jigawatts? Great Scott!
0 likes   

User avatar
flashflood
Tropical Storm
Tropical Storm
Posts: 187
Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:30 pm
Location: S. FL

#7 Postby flashflood » Thu Apr 20, 2006 11:34 am

Wind tunnel tests resulted in a car was upset at 115mph at one angle and 130+ mph at other angles. A minivan was upset at 130mph at one angle and at other angles from 160-180 mph.


ams.confex.com/ams/pdfpapers/50675.pdf
0 likes   

User avatar
Pearl River
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 825
Age: 66
Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:07 pm
Location: SELa

#8 Postby Pearl River » Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:15 am

Once you get a car rolling, it can become airborne, but it would have to be rolling at a decent speed and need an impetus to get it airborne.
0 likes   

User avatar
Recurve
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1640
Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:59 pm
Location: St. Petersburg, FL

#9 Postby Recurve » Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:19 pm

Memory that probably a lot of people recognize from Andrew in South Dade -- a school bus on top of a house, just west of the Turnpike in the Culter Ridge area. It was at an angle, with the back end almost on the ground and the front wheels on the peak of the crushed roof. Needless to say, it was there for a while. Of course, Andrew was reported to have many vortices, tornado-like eddies, and wind damage was greater than expected from straight-line winds.
0 likes   

DoctorHurricane2003

#10 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:21 pm

There were reports of a car stuck in an 8th story window in Darwin after STC Tracy in 1974
0 likes   

User avatar
Extremeweatherguy
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 11095
Joined: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:13 pm
Location: Florida

#11 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:00 pm

Most of those incidents when a car is lifted far off the ground are probably caused by tornadoes within the storm that are never "officially" reported to be tornadoes (because no one was outside to witness it).
0 likes   

Opal storm

#12 Postby Opal storm » Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:08 pm

This is a pic I found from hurricane Andrew

According to the article (link below) this truck flipped onto the roof.

Image


http://www.sptimes.com/2002/webspecials ... ory1.shtml
0 likes   


Return to “Talkin' Tropics”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: LarryWx and 82 guests