Iran Nuclear Standoff

[JTD]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle ... 941438.stm

More saber-rattling from Iran.

[kevin]

We've had an enemy with 10,000 nuclear missiles before, I'm sure we'll survive.

Imagine the damage that would have been caused had we attacked the Soviet Union when they were going for their nuclear capability. The world is better for caution and worse for black and white proclamations. We can never risk our national interests out of fear.

[cycloneye]

Iran worse threat since Hitler says Israel



Strong words comming out of Israel talking about Iran's threat.

[Scorpion]

Iran is willing and ready to transfer nuclear know-how to other countries. Imagine them telling North Korea these secrets.

[greeng13]

Iran is willing and ready to transfer nuclear know-how to other countries. Imagine them telling North Korea these secrets.

i may be wrong...but isn't it the assumption that N. Korea has supplied Iran with this info/technology and not the other way around? i think it would be N Korea (who already has nuclear capability) that is teaching Iran.

Now Iran transferring the info to Nigeria, Sudan, Yemen, Syria...etc would be bad!

[JTD]

Iran is willing and ready to transfer nuclear know-how to other countries. Imagine them telling North Korea these secrets.

i may be wrong...but isn't it the assumption that N. Korea has supplied Iran with this info/technology and not the other way around? i think it would be N Korea (who already has nuclear capability) that is teaching Iran.

Now Iran transferring the info to Nigeria, Sudan, Yemen, Syria...etc would be bad!

Or Al Qaeda.

I think China/Russia gave them the technical know how actually but I'm not sure. Iran threatening to proliferate nuclear technology is very scary.

[greeng13]

i think you may be right i think china/russia might have helped out Iran but my point was that N. Korea (I believe) has a far more advanced nuclear program currently...and probably possesses an arsenal or is closer to it. also, Iran has purchased missiles/missile technology from N. Korea as well

there are also some that believe it was Pakistan that traded Nuclear technology on making Higly enriched Uranium (weapons-grade) to N. Korea in exchange for missile technology. Pakistan has already proven to the world that they have nukes.

source (page 5 item 6): http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/week/pdf/060321.pdf

[BEER980]

Scorpion North Korea has shared and is still sharing information with Iran. They have helped them with missile technology as well. I seem to remember Pakistan has helped them along the way. At least the underground nuke network. Russia has helped build the nuke plant in question. China has signed some oil contracts recenty with Iran and really could use the oil. Here are some other players.

The clerical rulers in Tehran have long suspected the Americans or Israelis would eventually bomb Natanz out of existence. Therefore, four years ago, they began constructing its mirror - albeit on a far larger scale – in order to push ahead uninterrupted with enrichment for weapons, regardless of objections from the West, Israel and Arab neighbors.

Russian experts completed the initial plans in 2003 and construction began in early 2004. In late 2005, Bulgarian transport planes delivered tens of thousands of centrifuges from Belarus and Ukraine; they were transported directly to Neyshabour. In January 2006, 23 Ukrainian engineers arrived to start installing the equipment, joined in February by 46 Belarusian nuclear experts who are working in shifts to prepare the 155,000 P-1 and P-2 centrifuges for operation.

Iran has been rumored to have a deal with Venezuela to send milliles to them in oil shipments. Venezuela says this is crazy talk so who knows what is going on between those two, they do support each other though.

[BEER980]

Russian MoD says missile sale to Iran to go ahead
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
MOSCOW

Russia's defense minister confirmed Monday that his country will go ahead and supply Iran with sophisticated anti-aircraft missiles, news agencies reported. "Unless there are some circumstances beyond our control, this contract will be honored," Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov was quoted as saying by Interfax and RIA Novosti in Beijing, where he was on an official visit. The United States last week called on all countries to stop all arms exports to Iran and to end all nuclear cooperation with it to put pressure on Tehran to halt uranium enrichment activities.

But Moscow insisted it would not stop a project to construct a US$800 million (€645 million) nuclear power plant in Bushehr, southern Iran. And Nikolai Spassky, the deputy head of the Kremlin Security Council, said Russia would not end military cooperation with Iran, including the commitment to provide the country with Tor-M1 air-defense systems. Russia's Defense Ministry has said Moscow will supply 29 sophisticated Tor-M1 air defense missile systems to Iran under a $700 million (€565 million) contract, according to Russian media reports. Ivanov also defended the Bushehr project, saying it "has nothing to do with the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction," according to ITAR-Tass.
Source

[greeng13]

well isn't that just GREAT? are we headed for another Cold War with Russia now? No wonder they are so opposed to any sanctions...with a government teetering on the edge of democracy as well as multiple energy crises in former Soviet republics...they now have several contracts valued at more than $1 billion US! with Iran. Furthermore isn't the Communist party gaining strength there again? (in Russia that is)

I do not like the way this seems to be turning out...but a link to that site BEER would be appreciated!

[cycloneye]

well isn't that just GREAT? are we headed for another Cold War with Russia now? No wonder they are so opposed to any sanctions...with a government teetering on the edge of democracy as well as multiple energy crises in former Soviet republics...they now have several contracts valued at more than $1 billion US! with Iran. Furthermore isn't the Communist party gaining strength there again? (in Russia that is)

I do not like the way this seems to be turning out...but a link to that site BEER would be appreciated!

He posted a link to the information where it says source at the bottom of his post.

[greeng13]

thanks luis.

i forgot about the "shrink the link" movement!

after edit:

i'm used to seeing a link about 100-200 characters long

[SouthFloridawx]

By ALI AKBAR DAREINI, Associated Press Writer
27 minutes ago



TEHRAN, Iran - Iran ratcheted up its defiance ahead of a U.N. Security Council deadline to suspend uranium enrichment, threatening Tuesday to hide its program if the West takes "harsh measures" and to transfer nuclear technology to chaos-ridden Sudan...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/iran_nuclear ... NlYwN0bQ--

[CentralFlGal]

Ahhh, enriched uranium... it's not just for electricity anymore!

[cycloneye]

Iran's Supreme leader Threat to U.S



More threats from Iran to U.S.

[SouthFloridawx]

TEHRAN, Iran - Iran will harm U.S. interests anywhere in the world if the United States launches an attack on the Islamic Republic, Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said on Wednesday.

“The Americans should know that if they assault Iran their interests will be harmed anywhere in the world that is possible,” he was quoted as saying by a state television announcer.

“The Iranian nation will respond to any blow with double the intensity,” the leader added. Iran has been referred to the U.N. Security Council for possible action over its nuclear program, which Western countries say is a smokescreen for building an atomic bomb. Tehran denies the charge.

Oh yeah well our guns are you bigger than yours are ... na na nan nan..

If you respond with double intensity we will respond to that with quadriple the intesity.

[kevin]

Yes and no ones interests will be served. People have time and again proven themselves completely unable to understand that hurting the opponent doesn't remove harm to yourself, who came up with all this? Ahh that John Nash fellow.

We attack, they attack, we attack more, they fight us for the next thousand years. Ahhh, that would be great. OR! We could annihilate them and bring ourselves into several generations at the least of isolation and disdain.

No, diplomacy is the traditional way of dealing with these things. Seeing the alternative next door to Iran doubles my intention on advocating diplomatic processes.

[BEER980]

It's just unfortunate that the majority doesn't see the results and bigger picture like you & I do kevin.

[cycloneye]

Iran's long range missiles



Above is the evidence that North Korea has helped Iran to boost it's nuclear and long range missil capability.But more frighting may be the prospect by Iran to sell those kind of arms to terrorist groups.By what I am seeing from the last few days of the information comming out of Israel I think they are preparing for a strike towards Iran.I may be wrong on that apreciation but that is what I see with the past few days information comming out from Israel.

[Ivanhater]

how did this get in talking tropics? lol