Theo's AstroMet 2006 Hurricane & Tropical Storm Forecast

[vbhoutex]

Theo, you obviously do not know the definition of a hurricane or you would not classify a blizzard as one. By definition hurricanes are tropical systems with a warm core low center. That doesn not include blizzards, etc. I am not playing semantics, you are!!!

And yes tropcial systems happen at all times of the year in different parts of the world. We all know that. Hurricanes, by definition, do not happen in the Atlantic basin during the winter, even though through history a few have. Normally they do not. See the definition above.

And as far as all of your other "spin" do not be concescending to me or anyone else on this site about "not understanding astrometeorology or intimating(yes that is what you are doing)that I do not understand meteorology. I DO!!

As for hurricanes: Again, they can and have happened in the winter. Gee didn't I state that earlier?? Of course they have, in different parts of the world. Let's not play semantics please. I am not playing semantics, you are. I am not playing on words, I am stating facts which can be proven. I haven't seen any proof of yours except for what you state, without back up. What I have stated has been proved over and over. They are large systems of intense pressure. They can be measured in millibars,Tell me something I haven't known for many years, this is elemetary tropical meteorology. and indeed, winter hurricanes do have eyes at their centers. By definition, in the Atlantic basin there are no winter hurricanes, unless of course you are talking of the ones that occurred during December recently. They were not blizzards or snow producers, they were true hurricanes. They drop huge amounts of precip -most intense low pressure systems do. that can come in the form of warm water or snow and do so via terrific winds that eject massive amounts of water and yes - snow, which is just frozen water. WRONG!!!!!! See previous posts re: definition of a hurricane.

[Theo]

Theo, you obviously do not know the definition of a hurricane or you would not classify a blizzard as one. By definition hurricanes are tropical systems with a warm core low center. That doesn not include blizzards, etc. I am not playing semantics, you are!!!

And yes tropcial systems happen at all times of the year in different parts of the world. We all know that. Hurricanes, by definition, do not happen in the Atlantic basin during the winter, even though through history a few have. Normally they do not. See the definition above.

And as far as all of your other "spin" do not be concescending to me or anyone else on this site about "not understanding astrometeorology or intimating(yes that is what you are doing)that I do not understand meteorology. I DO!!

As for hurricanes: Again, they can and have happened in the winter. Gee didn't I state that earlier?? Of course they have, in different parts of the world. Let's not play semantics please. I am not playing semantics, you are. I am not playing on words, I am stating facts which can be proven. I haven't seen any proof of yours except for what you state, without back up. What I have stated has been proved over and over. They are large systems of intense pressure. They can be measured in millibars,Tell me something I haven't known for many years, this is elemetary tropical meteorology. and indeed, winter hurricanes do have eyes at their centers. By definition, in the Atlantic basin there are no winter hurricanes, unless of course you are talking of the ones that occurred during December recently. They were not blizzards or snow producers, they were true hurricanes. They drop huge amounts of precip -most intense low pressure systems do. that can come in the form of warm water or snow and do so via terrific winds that eject massive amounts of water and yes - snow, which is just frozen water. WRONG!!!!!! See previous posts re: definition of a hurricane.

I just have a different perspective. No need to take it personally. It is not meant that way so I would appreciate it if you would not write in the manner you do shouting at me please.

[senorpepr]

I appreciate your opinion Vbhoutex. However, if you look closely at images from space - you will, indeed, see hurricanes in winter. They are known to, and have occured, in winter - bringing with them lots and lots of precipitation and blizzard conditions dumping massive amounts of precip in the form of snow.

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As for hurricanes: Again, they can and have happened in the winter. Let's not play semantics please. They are large systems of intense pressure. They can be measured in millibars, and indeed, winter hurricanes do have eyes at their centers. They drop huge amounts of precip - that can come in the form of warm water or snow and do so via terrific winds that eject massive amounts of water and yes - snow, which is just frozen water.

Summer hurricanes eject warm water, and feed off warm SSTs for fuel. Winter storms can feed off the atmosphere - air, be it cold, or warm. We also see autumn cyclones like those near the Tropic of Capricorn. The Moon is now, at this time of writing, nearing maximum southern declination. Look at the weather news. There is a typhoon heading to the South China Sea. It fired up from the Earth's equator. And, with the lunar maximum just ahead - this typhoon should be a big one.

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Here, in the states, we have a strong, stubborn upper level low pressure system rotating counter-clockwise and stationary - dumping loads of cold rain over the the upper Eastern half of the country with flooding ahead in New England, from additional SE offshore feed. These types of systems vary, we call the weak ones "storms" and the exciting ones "hurricanes" - but they all have things in common - vortex spiral symetry consisting of very high winds, and they can deliever tons of precipitation - water and snow. These hurricanes can occur in all seasons, and in fact have done so many, many times in history. Again, did you see the March "Storm of the Century" 1993 and February Blizzard 2006 winter hurricanes?

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I just have a different perspective. No need to take it personally. It is not meant that way so I would appreciate it if you would not write in the manner you do shouting at me please.

With all due respect... regardless of your perspective, I must point out that Winter storms (like blizzards and the such) are NOT hurricanes. Winter storms are not warm-core barotropic systems... like hurricanes are. Winter storms are cold-core baroclinic systems. I'm sorry, but calling a winter storm a hurricane is like calling a dog a bus.

[Theo]

I appreciate your opinion Vbhoutex. However, if you look closely at images from space - you will, indeed, see hurricanes in winter. They are known to, and have occured, in winter - bringing with them lots and lots of precipitation and blizzard conditions dumping massive amounts of precip in the form of snow.

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As for hurricanes: Again, they can and have happened in the winter. Let's not play semantics please. They are large systems of intense pressure. They can be measured in millibars, and indeed, winter hurricanes do have eyes at their centers. They drop huge amounts of precip - that can come in the form of warm water or snow and do so via terrific winds that eject massive amounts of water and yes - snow, which is just frozen water.

Summer hurricanes eject warm water, and feed off warm SSTs for fuel. Winter storms can feed off the atmosphere - air, be it cold, or warm. We also see autumn cyclones like those near the Tropic of Capricorn. The Moon is now, at this time of writing, nearing maximum southern declination. Look at the weather news. There is a typhoon heading to the South China Sea. It fired up from the Earth's equator. And, with the lunar maximum just ahead - this typhoon should be a big one.

...

Here, in the states, we have a strong, stubborn upper level low pressure system rotating counter-clockwise and stationary - dumping loads of cold rain over the the upper Eastern half of the country with flooding ahead in New England, from additional SE offshore feed. These types of systems vary, we call the weak ones "storms" and the exciting ones "hurricanes" - but they all have things in common - vortex spiral symetry consisting of very high winds, and they can deliever tons of precipitation - water and snow. These hurricanes can occur in all seasons, and in fact have done so many, many times in history. Again, did you see the March "Storm of the Century" 1993 and February Blizzard 2006 winter hurricanes?

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I just have a different perspective. No need to take it personally. It is not meant that way so I would appreciate it if you would not write in the manner you do shouting at me please.

With all due respect... regardless of your perspective, I must point out that Winter storms (like blizzards and the such) are NOT hurricanes. Winter storms are not warm-core barotropic systems... like hurricanes are. Winter storms are cold-core baroclinic systems. I'm sorry, but calling a winter storm a hurricane is like calling a dog a bus.

Well I don't define these things solely within conventional meteorological thinking, so my experience, knowledge and perspective is quite different according to my methodology of astrometeorology. And yes, of course "winter storms are cold-core" systems. These winter hurricanes are intense vortexes of various forms of spiral symmetry. We saw one in March 1993 - called the "perfect storm." But they are just as destructive. Saying that these storms only are "hurricanes" only because of warm water says that they cannot form in all seasons. They in fact do. These winter core hurricanes have eyes, have intense winds, and contain large amounts of moisture - just like the "warm water" ones. What is the difference? The temperature. You can get all water with one, and snow - frozen water - with the other. Look at the space images of these winter "hurricanes" and see for yourself. Atmospheric tides are directly influenced by lunar gravtiational pulls/pushes and when the Moon crosses the equator in its transits you can time these hurricanes to the maximum declinations north, and south, of the Moon. It is is like clockwork. We have seen it many times before, and are seeing it right now in the real world of weather.

[vbhoutex]

I appreciate your opinion Vbhoutex. However, if you look closely at images from space - you will, indeed, see hurricanes in winter. They are known to, and have occured, in winter - bringing with them lots and lots of precipitation and blizzard conditions dumping massive amounts of precip in the form of snow.

...

As for hurricanes: Again, they can and have happened in the winter. Let's not play semantics please. They are large systems of intense pressure. They can be measured in millibars, and indeed, winter hurricanes do have eyes at their centers. They drop huge amounts of precip - that can come in the form of warm water or snow and do so via terrific winds that eject massive amounts of water and yes - snow, which is just frozen water.

Summer hurricanes eject warm water, and feed off warm SSTs for fuel. Winter storms can feed off the atmosphere - air, be it cold, or warm. We also see autumn cyclones like those near the Tropic of Capricorn. The Moon is now, at this time of writing, nearing maximum southern declination. Look at the weather news. There is a typhoon heading to the South China Sea. It fired up from the Earth's equator. And, with the lunar maximum just ahead - this typhoon should be a big one.

...

Here, in the states, we have a strong, stubborn upper level low pressure system rotating counter-clockwise and stationary - dumping loads of cold rain over the the upper Eastern half of the country with flooding ahead in New England, from additional SE offshore feed. These types of systems vary, we call the weak ones "storms" and the exciting ones "hurricanes" - but they all have things in common - vortex spiral symetry consisting of very high winds, and they can deliever tons of precipitation - water and snow. These hurricanes can occur in all seasons, and in fact have done so many, many times in history. Again, did you see the March "Storm of the Century" 1993 and February Blizzard 2006 winter hurricanes?

...

I just have a different perspective. No need to take it personally. It is not meant that way so I would appreciate it if you would not write in the manner you do shouting at me please.

With all due respect... regardless of your perspective, I must point out that Winter storms (like blizzards and the such) are NOT hurricanes. Winter storms are not warm-core barotropic systems... like hurricanes are. Winter storms are cold-core baroclinic systems. I'm sorry, but calling a winter storm a hurricane is like calling a dog a bus.

Hurricanes can also form in cold conditions. And yes, of course "winter storms are cold-core" systems. These winter hurricanes are intense vortexes of various forms of spiral symmetry. We saw one in March 1993 -called the "perfect storm." But they are just as destructive. Saying that these storms only are "hurricanes" only because of warm water says that they cannot form in all seasons. They in fact do. These winter core hurricanes have eyes, have intense winds, and contain large amounts of moisture - just like the "warm water" ones. What the difference? The temperature. You can get all water with one, and snow - frozen water - with the other. Look at the space images of these winter "hurricanes" and see for yourself.

WHICH PART OF THE EXPLANATIONS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND??? BY DEFINITION THEY ARE NOT HURRICANES!!!Just because something "looks like a hurricane" does not make it a hurricane!!!! Go ahead and spin away!!!! I'm through with this IDIOCY!!! 3 explanantions, including one by a professional meteorologist and you persist??? GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!

[Theo]

I appreciate your opinion Vbhoutex. However, if you look closely at images from space - you will, indeed, see hurricanes in winter. They are known to, and have occured, in winter - bringing with them lots and lots of precipitation and blizzard conditions dumping massive amounts of precip in the form of snow.

...

As for hurricanes: Again, they can and have happened in the winter. Let's not play semantics please. They are large systems of intense pressure. They can be measured in millibars, and indeed, winter hurricanes do have eyes at their centers. They drop huge amounts of precip - that can come in the form of warm water or snow and do so via terrific winds that eject massive amounts of water and yes - snow, which is just frozen water.

Summer hurricanes eject warm water, and feed off warm SSTs for fuel. Winter storms can feed off the atmosphere - air, be it cold, or warm. We also see autumn cyclones like those near the Tropic of Capricorn. The Moon is now, at this time of writing, nearing maximum southern declination. Look at the weather news. There is a typhoon heading to the South China Sea. It fired up from the Earth's equator. And, with the lunar maximum just ahead - this typhoon should be a big one.

...

Here, in the states, we have a strong, stubborn upper level low pressure system rotating counter-clockwise and stationary - dumping loads of cold rain over the the upper Eastern half of the country with flooding ahead in New England, from additional SE offshore feed. These types of systems vary, we call the weak ones "storms" and the exciting ones "hurricanes" - but they all have things in common - vortex spiral symetry consisting of very high winds, and they can deliever tons of precipitation - water and snow. These hurricanes can occur in all seasons, and in fact have done so many, many times in history. Again, did you see the March "Storm of the Century" 1993 and February Blizzard 2006 winter hurricanes?

...

I just have a different perspective. No need to take it personally. It is not meant that way so I would appreciate it if you would not write in the manner you do shouting at me please.

With all due respect... regardless of your perspective, I must point out that Winter storms (like blizzards and the such) are NOT hurricanes. Winter storms are not warm-core barotropic systems... like hurricanes are. Winter storms are cold-core baroclinic systems. I'm sorry, but calling a winter storm a hurricane is like calling a dog a bus.

Hurricanes can also form in cold conditions. And yes, of course "winter storms are cold-core" systems. These winter hurricanes are intense vortexes of various forms of spiral symmetry. We saw one in March 1993 -called the "perfect storm." But they are just as destructive. Saying that these storms only are "hurricanes" only because of warm water says that they cannot form in all seasons. They in fact do. These winter core hurricanes have eyes, have intense winds, and contain large amounts of moisture - just like the "warm water" ones. What the difference? The temperature. You can get all water with one, and snow - frozen water - with the other. Look at the space images of these winter "hurricanes" and see for yourself.

WHICH PART OF THE EXPLANATIONS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND??? BY DEFINITION THEY ARE NOT HURRICANES!!!Just because something "looks like a hurricane" does not make it a hurricane!!!! Go ahead and spin away!!!! I'm through with this IDIOCY!!! 3 explanantions, including one by a professional meteorologist and you persist??? GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!

Let's keep it civil please. That is your "definition" - not mine. Rather than shout out your points, try looking at space images of these intense vortex spiral symmetrical storms in all seasons and see for yourself. I am a professional astrometeorologist, with plenty of conventional meteorological background and experience. You know nothing about me either to write in the fashion you do here - calling it "idiocy" because you have not studied the methodologies of astrometeorology - which predates conventional meteorology by many centuries and invented meteorology. Again, please keep it civil and not be rude.

[milankovitch]

Well I don't define these things solely within conventional meteorological thinking, so my experience, knowledge and perspective is quite different according to my methodology of astrometeorology. And yes, of course "winter storms are cold-core" systems. These winter hurricanes are intense vortexes of various forms of spiral symmetry. We saw one in March 1993 - called the "perfect storm." But they are just as destructive. Saying that these storms only are "hurricanes" only because of warm water says that they cannot form in all seasons. They in fact do. These winter core hurricanes have eyes, have intense winds, and contain large amounts of moisture - just like the "warm water" ones. What is the difference? The temperature. You can get all water with one, and snow - frozen water - with the other. Look at the space images of these winter "hurricanes" and see for yourself. Atmospheric tides are directly influenced by lunar gravtiational pulls/pushes and when the Moon crosses the equator in its transits you can time these hurricanes to the maximum declinations north, and south, of the Moon. It is is like clockwork. We have seen it many times before, and are seeing it right now in the real world of weather.

That's not what warm core means. A warm core system weakens with height (more anticyclonic for a low, more cyclonic for a high). A cold core system strengthens with height (more cyclonic for a low, more anticyclonic for a high). The difference between the two is that their dynamics are completely different. Cold core systems are driven by baroclinicity, hurricanes get there energy from evaporation.

[vbhoutex]

Do not tell me to keep it civil. I full well know what is civil and what isn't!!! Civil also has to do with accepting explanations for what they are-the truth instead of arguing incessantly for a viewpoint that can not be supported by anything convetnional!!! Spin away. I am done with this!!!

[senorpepr]

Hurricanes can also form in cold conditions. And yes, of course "winter storms are cold-core" systems. These winter hurricanes are intense vortexes of various forms of spiral symmetry.

Just because they are intense vortices of spiral symmetry, doesn't make it a hurricane. Is my toilet bowl a hurricane because, when I flush it, it makes an intense vortex of sprial symmetry? No.

Furthermore, I understand that hurricanes can form (although very unlikely) over cold water. [Remember... I'm using the proper definition of a hurricane, unlike you, so I'm discounting winter storms as hurricanes.] However, hurricanes are warm-core. Winter storms are not. Hurricanes are barotropic, meaning they have no temperature advection. Winter storms are baroclinic, meaning they have temperature advection.

We saw one in March 1993 -called the "perfect storm."

That wasn’t The Perfect Storm. The March 1993 “Superstorm” was not a hurricane. It was far from a hurricane. It had strong temperature advection, which hurricanes do not have. It had fronts attached to it, which hurricanes do not have.

http://wintercenter.homestead.com/files ... m93-2c.gif

But they are just as destructive.

Okay. But they are not hurricanes. If a raccoon tears up you trash like a cat would, do you call the raccoon a cat anyway?

Saying that these storms only are "hurricanes" only because of warm water says that they cannot form in all seasons. They in fact do. These winter core hurricanes have eyes, have intense winds, and contain large amounts of moisture - just like the "warm water" ones.

Just because a winter storm has an eye, doesn’t make it a hurricane. It makes it a cold-core low, or a polar low, but not a hurricane.

What is the difference? The temperature. You can get all water with one, and snow - frozen water - with the other.

It’s not just temperature, but temperature advection. Also, it’s internal structure. Have you been to a basic meteorology course?

Look at the space images of these winter "hurricanes" and see for yourself.

Do you really think I’ve never looked at a satellite image of a winter storm? Last time I’ve check, I’ve been forecasting the weather, professionally, for several years. Winter storms don’t look like hurricanes. They may have similarities, since they are both lows, but they have there vast differences, like associated fronts, trough, and it’s internal structure. Maybe I should ask you, have you looked at these winter “storms” on satellite images? Don’t just look at visible images, but also infrared, water vapor, and various microwave imagery. You’ll see that winter “storms” are not like hurricanes.

Atmospheric tides are directly influenced by lunar gravtiational pulls/pushes and when the Moon crosses the equator in its transits you can time these hurricanes to the maximum declinations north, and south, of the Moon. It is is like clockwork. We have seen it many times before, and are seeing it right now in the real world of weather.

Right………

[senorpepr]

Let's keep it civil please. That is your "definition" - not mine. Rather than shout out your points, try looking at space images of these intense vortex spiral symmetrical storms in all seasons and see for yourself. I am a professional astrometeorologist, with plenty of conventional meteorological background and experience. You know nothing about me either to write in the fashion you do here - calling it "idiocy" because you have not studied the methodologies of astrometeorology - which predates conventional meteorology by many centuries and invented meteorology. Again, please keep it civil and not be rude.

So... if I say that this block: is white because it's my definition, does that make it the correct definition?

[Theo]

Hurricanes can also form in cold conditions. And yes, of course "winter storms are cold-core" systems. These winter hurricanes are intense vortexes of various forms of spiral symmetry.

Just because they are intense vortices of spiral symmetry, doesn't make it a hurricane. Is my toilet bowl a hurricane because, when I flush it, it makes an intense vortex of sprial symmetry? No.

Furthermore, I understand that hurricanes can form (although very unlikely) over cold water. [Remember... I'm using the proper definition of a hurricane, unlike you, so I'm discounting winter storms as hurricanes.] However, hurricanes are warm-core. Winter storms are not. Hurricanes are barotropic, meaning they have no temperature advection. Winter storms are baroclinic, meaning they have temperature advection.

We saw one in March 1993 -called the "perfect storm."

That wasn’t The Perfect Storm. The March 1993 “Superstorm” was not a hurricane. It was far from a hurricane. It had strong temperature advection, which hurricanes do not have. It had fronts attached to it, which hurricanes do not have.

http://wintercenter.homestead.com/files ... m93-2c.gif

But they are just as destructive.

Okay. But they are not hurricanes. If a raccoon tears up you trash like a cat would, do you call the raccoon a cat anyway?

Saying that these storms only are "hurricanes" only because of warm water says that they cannot form in all seasons. They in fact do. These winter core hurricanes have eyes, have intense winds, and contain large amounts of moisture - just like the "warm water" ones.

Just because a winter storm has an eye, doesn’t make it a hurricane. It makes it a cold-core low, or a polar low, but not a hurricane.

What is the difference? The temperature. You can get all water with one, and snow - frozen water - with the other.

It’s not just temperature, but temperature advection. Also, it’s internal structure. Have you been to a basic meteorology course?

Look at the space images of these winter "hurricanes" and see for yourself.

Do you really think I’ve never looked at a satellite image of a winter storm? Last time I’ve check, I’ve been forecasting the weather, professionally, for several years. Winter storms don’t look like hurricanes. They may have similarities, since they are both lows, but they have there vast differences, like associated fronts, trough, and it’s internal structure. Maybe I should ask you, have you looked at these winter “storms” on satellite images? Don’t just look at visible images, but also infrared, water vapor, and various microwave imagery. You’ll see that winter “storms” are not like hurricanes.

Atmospheric tides are directly influenced by lunar gravtiational pulls/pushes and when the Moon crosses the equator in its transits you can time these hurricanes to the maximum declinations north, and south, of the Moon. It is is like clockwork. We have seen it many times before, and are seeing it right now in the real world of weather.

Right………

Yes, indeed so. Are you implying that these intense vortex storms cannot occur in all seasons? Is that what you are saying? If so, then I disagree. They have, and they do.

[senorpepr]

Yes, indeed so. Are you implying that these intense vortex storms cannot occur in all seasons? Is that what you are saying? If so, then I disagree. They have, and they do.

Yes, hurricanes can form at all times of the year, but they only tend to during the summer and fall months. I am also saying that your definition of a hurricane, which includes polar lows, is incorrect. Winter storms, such as nor'easters, are NOT hurricanes. They aren't. That's the truth.

[vbhoutex]

Gee, I just did a google search for Professional Astrometeorology and it came up with NO listings. How strange since you claim to be one. I would think an esteemed search engine such as google would come up with something about it if the "profession" really existed.

[senorpepr]

I am a professional astrometeorologist, with plenty of conventional meteorological background and experience.

If that was the case, you would think you'd know the difference between a warm-core and a cold-core system... or the difference between a hurricane and a polar low.

[Theo]

I am a professional astrometeorologist, with plenty of conventional meteorological background and experience.

If that was the case, you would think you'd know the difference between a warm-core and a cold-core system... or the difference between a hurricane and a polar low.

Perhaps that is the problem - all the conventional model terms banging up against one another. Wanting to split hairs down beyond the microbe. My view is that these weather systems are in the real world. We can see them, and of course experience them. We can study them. You see eye formation at the center of what you call cold-core systems. Well, yes, it would be cold core in the winter season. Why should it not? Just as they can operate in warm conditions they can in cooler ones as well. What's your point? They vary in sizes and intensity as we know. However, this difference - cold or warm - means that intense spiral symmetrical vortex systems cannot be cyclonic in hurricane fashion and only in warm conditions? Look at the storm of the century, or check out last February's offshore system that caused a blizzard off the eastern U.S. coast.

[senorpepr]

I am a professional astrometeorologist, with plenty of conventional meteorological background and experience.

If that was the case, you would think you'd know the difference between a warm-core and a cold-core system... or the difference between a hurricane and a polar low.

Perhaps that is the problem - all the conventional model terms banging up against one another. Wanting to split hairs down beyond the microbe. My view is that these weather systems are in the real world. We can see them, and of course experience them. We can study them. You see eye formation at the center of what you call cold-core systems. Well, yes, it would be cold core in the winter season. Why should it not? Just as they can operate in warm conditions they can in cooler ones at well. The vary in sizes and intensity as we know. However, this difference - cold or warm - means that intense spiral symmetrical vortex systems cannot be cyclonic in hurricane fashion? Look at the storm of the century, or check out last February's offshore system that caused a blizzard off the eastern U.S. coast.

Once again, you're getting the terms "cold-core" and "warm-core" confused. This isn't splitting microbes... this is using proper terminology. You don't call a Dodge Neon a flat-bed truck. See... cold-core storms can form anytime of year. So can warm-core storms. Matter of fact... cold-core storms are more common in the US during summer than warm-core storms. …and it’s not just me calling them “cold-core systems,” it’s every meteorologist in his or her right mind. Cold- or warm-core systems have NOTHING to do with the water temperature or the air temperature… it’s the structure.

Yes, these storms are real world and yes, they should be studied, but at least call them properly by their name. Should I start calling the Moon the Sun, because I can?

The bottom line is that winter storms are NOT hurricanes. They may spin like them, but that doesn’t make it a hurricane. The reason why they spin like each other is because they are both lows, but with different structures. Please… understand that.

[senorpepr]

Here... try looking at this page. It will help explain the difference between a cold- and warm-core low.

http://www.theweatherprediction.com/bas ... suretypes/

[DoctorHurricane2003]

IMO All this is is a spin around from a...yes...a troll who attempts to adapt everything anyone says and history to his favor.

Best let this topic drop.

[Theo]

IMO All this is is a spin around from a...yes...a troll who attempts to adapt everything anyone says and history to his favor.

Best let this topic drop.

Best to mind one's own manners, doctorhurricane, and be civil, rather than throwing out names like "troll" - which I am not.

[Theo]

Here... try looking at this page. It will help explain the difference between a cold- and warm-core low.

http://www.theweatherprediction.com/bas ... suretypes/

Thanks for the link, but I know the difference. What is your point?