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LOL Ya'll are too funny. Personally I hope it stays quite for bit longer. I am not ready to start the worry time again. Not just yet. I an still in shock from last year. I love hurricanes but now that I have been up close and personal with one I am going the NIMBY route. (
Not in my back yard---LOL)

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- Aslkahuna
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Thirty years ago during this same part of May, Typhoon Pamela down to a Cat 4 125kt storm from a Cat 5 Super earlier slammed Guam head on. The storm brought 6 hours of sustained 100kt winds to the island and 18 hours of sustained typhoon force winds it was considered the second worst typhoon ever to hit Guam until Paka and Pongsana (STY Karen in 1962 remains number one on Guam's hit list) Pamela did 350 million dollars damage to the island yet no one was killed. While Pamela was raging, TY Olga was giving forecasters in the Philippines fits. Manila got 18 inches of rain in 6 hours as the main inflow band passed over the City (where if you so much as SAY the word rain the place floods) bringing the city to a complete halt. Olga was to meander over and around Luzon Island for 5 days bringing high winds to coastal locations (destroying the sets for the movie Apocalypse Now) and torrential rains measuring over 100 inches in some mountain locations turning the Luzon Central Valley into an inland sea. Clark AB (where I was at) was totally isolated as low ceilings and visibility along with the strong low level windshear ground aircraft operations and the only way from the base and immediate town to anywhere else was by boat.
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I was stationed on Guam when Pamela hit. It was what started my facination with tropical storms. The strangest thing I remember about the storm was that when we were in the eye that the sky was the deepest blue I've ever seen. BTW, the Air Force flew all the planes out well in advance but left us there. I guess that's when I learned the meaning of expendable 

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- Aslkahuna
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Pamela was probably as wild a ride as you're ever likely to see and I would assume you wouldn't want a ride like that where you are living now. Olga was a strange storm for us in the Philippines and the Best Track from JTWC doesnt jive well with what we observed at Clark. I clearly had a clear center pass directly over my house during the early morning before all hell broke loose but JT has the center passing 60 miles to the north which definitely does not jive with our evening sounding.
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- mf_dolphin
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Pamela is something I definitely don't want to do again. I was stationed at a communications site south of Andersen AFB on top of a hill. We had about 20 acres of antenna farm that looked like a pile of spagetti (what we could find) when it was done. Our backup communications was through a microwave link back to Andersen. Pamela took our 150ft microwave tower and wrapped it around our 2-story building. The dish itself came through the 1st floor wall. Needless to say it got a little breezy in the building. I still laugh about one of the first headlines that came out after Pamela.
It said " Only 150 survivors". My mother almost had a heart attack. Within a couple of days everyone on Guam had a t-shirt that said "I am one of the 150 survivors of Typhoon Pamela'
It said " Only 150 survivors". My mother almost had a heart attack. Within a couple of days everyone on Guam had a t-shirt that said "I am one of the 150 survivors of Typhoon Pamela'

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TheAnalyst wrote:Boca, this is exactly what I mean. You are encouraging posts just to upset people. That is not right.
Nobody was encouraging posts just to upset you earlier in this topic. If you don't like the discussion, don't look at it. If a thread gets long, it is just because we enjoy discussing things. You can always go to a shorter thread. Simple as that.
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CapeVerdeWave wrote:TheAnalyst wrote:Boca, this is exactly what I mean. You are encouraging posts just to upset people. That is not right.
Nobody was encouraging posts just to upset you earlier in this topic. If you don't like the discussion, don't look at it. If a thread gets long, it is just because we enjoy discussing things. You can always go to a shorter thread. Simple as that.
By the way, I enjoyed your earlier post. Great ANALYSIS...
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- Aslkahuna
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I remember that first story-apparently someone called a shelter on Guam and was told that they had 150 survivors of the storm there and they ran with it as meaning that only 150 survived the storm-as it was there was only one fatality despite Guam looking like a garbage dump after the storm left. Shows that the media was just as screwed up then as they are now. JTWC had to transfer responsibility to the AJTWC then in Japan right at a critical time with Olga near the Philippines which led to some bad decisions at Subic Bay which wound up with a Carrier alongside a pier in the middle of a typhoon. Pamela was the second worst typhoon to hit Guam up to then behind Karen in 1962 (which is still number one).
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