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#1 Postby BUD » Sat May 20, 2006 11:27 pm

My wife is the opening manger and have been working with this company for 1.5 years and the other day she finally ask for a raise in pay.NOW here is the BS of it.The "new"mangers that are hired are beening hired at $9.50-10.50 per hour.I thought that she would get up what they were making but all she got was .25!!!And now making $8.75,but they are bring new people in at $9.50-10.50!!!!!And theses people are lazy,oh god sooooooo lazy!!!Its not work expense because the last place she worked she had put in 15 years!!!!!!And theses people have "might" have 2-5 years under there belts.NOW here is the very bad part its against company rules to talk about other people pay and if you are caught your FIRED!!
My wife has keys to the store and theses new people do not and matter in fact they always work mid-shifts.I also work there ,but at nights and people tell me how my wife is busting her butt and doing a great job and that makes me feel good but why are they paying her so low???
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#2 Postby Janice » Sun May 21, 2006 7:04 am

She needs to go in and have a good heart to heart talk with her superior and ask why this is happening. Does she belong to a Union? She will never know until she talks to her superior about it. Better get it out in the open with them instead of just wondering what is going on.
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#3 Postby coriolis » Sun May 21, 2006 8:56 am

Believe it or not, that happens a lot. They have to offer "competitive" wages to attract new employees. Existing employees get left behind. It even happens in professional settings. No wonder why they are not allowed to talk about their wages. Talking to them may not help. It will make them think that she's been talking to the other employees.

I take it that this is some sort of retail operation? I would imagine that loyalty to employees is about zero.

She has two choices:
1. Resignation - $8.50 was good enough when she got hired. Why does that change when they hire someone else?

2. Look for another job and become the "new" person that gets a competitive wage.
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#4 Postby Janice » Sun May 21, 2006 9:01 am

Yes, if the husband is working and the wife can bring in under $10 an hour, I would just stay. That is enough for a second income. In the meantime, don't rush, but you can look for something else. Remember, if you move, the same thing can happen. Good luck.

When I said about talking to management, I did not mean about the salary increase. just kind of get an idea where you stand as far as a raise or promotion.
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#5 Postby alicia-w » Sun May 21, 2006 3:33 pm

I have to disagree. There arent any jobs i would take for $10 an hour let alone less than that. Call me high maintenance but it just isnt enough these days.
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#6 Postby Tstormwatcher » Sun May 21, 2006 3:58 pm

I would say to have her go to management and tell them what she believes she is worth and if they disagree then have her resign. No $8.50 a hour job is worth that much hassle.
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#7 Postby Janice » Sun May 21, 2006 4:12 pm

I would suggest she have another job lined up before saying too much to management. She does not want to lose the one she has. Remember $8.50 is better than 0. The job market is a zoo out there and lots of competition. I was a social worker in the states, and if I did not have a job, I would grab one at $8.50. You have to start somewhere.Never feel ashamed of that salary.
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#8 Postby alicia-w » Sun May 21, 2006 7:35 pm

If your expenses for going to work outweigh what you get paid, then it just isnt worth it. Clothes, day care, gas, etc, often exceed what you can make at that rate and at the end of the day, it's easy to just say screw it. do i recall that you have a special needs child? maybe this is a chance to stay home for a while and look for a better job with a more appreciative management.
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#9 Postby BUD » Sun May 21, 2006 10:46 pm

alicia-w wrote:If your expenses for going to work outweigh what you get paid, then it just isnt worth it. Clothes, day care, gas, etc, often exceed what you can make at that rate and at the end of the day, it's easy to just say screw it. do i recall that you have a special needs child? maybe this is a chance to stay home for a while and look for a better job with a more appreciative management.


I am the one who has the special needs child and I am the one who stays home the most.I work only three days so I can work with her on school and it has helped alot.BUT gas prices have killed us!!!It cost us around $55-70 a week in gas!!Its been hard for us.Thats the other reason why we do not have day care it would be around $150 a week and no day care opens there doors until 7:30am!!!If I could go back to grocery I would but they will not work with us.Just like my last store manger told me "Either put your little girl up for adoption or quit!!"The other sad part is this is South Carolina the lowest payed state!!I would move but my Dad is sick and my wife mother is also sick.Me and my wife are luck we do not have that many bills.I just only wish she had gotten a little more money than .25!!
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#10 Postby coriolis » Mon May 22, 2006 11:23 am

Yikes Bud! Sounds like no benefits either. You guys are in a spot alright. Every penny is precious, then. Maybe her best bet is to start looking for another job.

Someone should put that store manager up for adoption! Like I said, zero loyalty towards employees.
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#11 Postby Janice » Mon May 22, 2006 11:27 am

Yes, she should definately be applying at other places. Remember, you have to usually start at the bottom unless she has good experience, but can work yourself up the ladder. Make sure she does not quit her job till she finds another. She needs to look for benefit packages too. Good luck.
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#12 Postby CentralFlGal » Mon May 22, 2006 12:02 pm

It's all about business matrices and the cost of employee retention vs. new hire recruitment. Sadly, experience doesn't account for much in these types of payscales; it is all about what the company needs at the moment to keep the bottom line looking nice. Companies have switched to just-in-time human resources management and view employees as costs instead of investments. Not sure when this fad began, but the end is nowhere in sight.

I agree that a raise of $0.25 US/hour is a slap in the face considering the cost-of-living increases and rising interest rates. Your buying power is less now than it was a few years ago due to a number these external factors.

The best advice is to keep looking elsewhere (I understand gasoline takes a big chunk out of your livelihood), and remember to frontload your pay expectations. $0.25 US/hour raise is actually considered a decent raise once you're in. Try to get into a new company at a higher rate - it might be your only chance with that company to do so.
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#13 Postby j » Mon May 22, 2006 12:18 pm

I agree...get it up front! Once they've got you, it's.. "you've done such a great job this year, here is your 3%. Oh, what you say?? that's the same thing you got for the last 5 years? I'm sorry loyal employee wantabe, but the fact of the matter is, we can get any a**h*** off the street to do your job".

Above last remark is exactly what came out of my first bosses mouth, when I whined about my 3% raise back in 1979.

You know what? I'm still getting those same lousy 3% raises (different company though) and being told I'm a great asset to the company.

I'm not trying to make you feel worse, but I'm an Engineer going on 28 years, and I'm getting the same raise(s) your wife is getting. --- 3%. It's a cruel world out there.
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#14 Postby Janice » Mon May 22, 2006 12:35 pm

I don't think my husband has got much of a raise at school either. But, he does consulting for pharmaceuticals here in PR which really helps.
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#15 Postby BUD » Mon May 22, 2006 5:37 pm

And now the last two weeks her paychecks have been, I have no proof but someone maybe shaving time??!! We always keep track of her times. The new gm that is taking over said he would take care of it himself.
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#16 Postby Janice » Mon May 22, 2006 5:42 pm

Great, when you are paid by the hour, always keep a good record. Then you can compare hours with days and find out what happened.
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#17 Postby alicia-w » Mon May 22, 2006 7:16 pm

stories like this make me very grateful for the jobs we have.
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#18 Postby Janice » Mon May 22, 2006 7:19 pm

Yes, me too. My husband has a wonderful job, thank God. And he does so many other things to bring in extra income too. Life is good for us. It enables me not to work. I really appreciate all the time he puts in.
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#19 Postby CentralFlGal » Tue May 23, 2006 10:58 am

alicia-w wrote:I have to disagree. There arent any jobs i would take for $10 an hour let alone less than that. Call me high maintenance but it just isnt enough these days.


Some people simply do not live in areas where $9 or $10/hour at the workplace is offered. And, no, it isn't enough for anyone whether you're high maintenance or just trying to feed a family. Wage increases have not kept up with the cost of living as I have stated before, and I have no clue how to combat this phenomenon. But I do know we can thank Wal-Mart and other big-box retailers for setting the precedent of low wages, no health benefits (aside from the "Hey, we offer them" but don't pay enough for employees to partake in them) and running higher-paying competitors out of business by undercutting prices.

"Nickled and Dimed" by Barbara Ehrenreich is a book I highly recommend to all. The writer goes "undercover" and tries to survive on a blue collar wage in several areas. Working two jobs in Key West while living in a run down trailer without a car didn't even cut it.
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#20 Postby Janice » Tue May 23, 2006 11:05 am

Yes. I feel so sorry for anyone these days who is out looking for a job. There are so many people out of work looking too and the competition for jobs is high. A lot of people who were making good salaries have to be content with lower just to feed their families. I don't see it getting any better in the future either. This country has to do something about getting more jobs for more people.
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