Relocation of center very possible...

[rockyman]

The center is NNW of the 5pm center because it MOVED that way...it was NOT relocated...it's moving now, and at a fairly good clip.

[Opal storm]

The center is NNW of the 5pm center because it MOVED that way...it was NOT relocated...it's moving now, and at a fairly good clip.

That makes sense.

[Bgator]

Wxman57 posted this earlier....

Here's another IR enhancement that shows the lower-level to mid level center very clearly as an "eye-like" feature (not an eye):

If the center has relocated there, then that would give TD One the chance to become a hurricane!

Probably not considering it would have much less time over water.And have you seen the way it looks?It's a huge mess,no hurricane is coming out of this IMO.

As of the moment i am tending to agree with wxman, about a possible relocation, that MLC looks very healthy and is going towards the convection, so it may be the new low, well we will see when the recon comes out...

[Extremeweatherguy]

The center is NNW of the 5pm center because it MOVED that way...it was NOT relocated...it's moving now, and at a fairly good clip.

I never said it relocated. I was just pointing that out so as to show that it had not relocated southward as some thought it might.

[Air Force Met]

No doubt about it! Thanks, Christy! but about that data...

having u been watching everything he's been posting...look up in the threads!

Here i what he sais on another thread at 9:50...

"You won't see an LLC on IR imagery, but that MLC near 25.7N/84.9W looks quite impressive. "

And that is what I have said...and agree with...that it might take over...but it is NOT the center. The DATA does not agree right now.

[curtadams]

I think the LLC is basically right where the NHC thinks it is. In the last two hours a very obvious fast tight counterclockwise spin has appeared on shortwave IR around 23.5N 85W. That's almost exactly where you'd expect convection rising from the center. Maybe half a degree south, no more. So I think the center is finally starting to convect. The center was already too big to teleport - a relatively large 1002 low represents a lot of air moved around and even a brisk convective outburst won't come close to filling it in and creating another 150 miles away.

[Normandy]

Funny, I thought the center was located due north of Cancun (Yucatan tip)....shows how unorganized this is.

[Stormcenter]

Hmmmm it sure looks interesting on Sat. and trying to wrap around.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-ir2.html

[Normandy]

Here is where I thought the LLC was

[Extremeweatherguy]

Here is where I thought the LLC was

yes, that is it. It is also moving more WNW right now, which is interesting because that was not expected.

[Normandy]

Well if that is the center than the NHC might need a change in track

[Extremeweatherguy]

Well if that is the center than the NHC might need a change in track

I guess we will see in the morning. At the very least it is an interesting development.

[Normandy]

At the very least that seems to be the best Low pressure area, whether it be midlevel or low level on sat...

The MLC that wxman57 was tracking earlier has seemed to poof

[Rainband]

Looks to be right on track. I am kind of Glad we really need the rain

[Thunder44]

Here is where I thought the LLC was

yes, that is it. It is also moving more WNW right now, which is interesting because that was not expected.

If that is where the LLC is, the storm will it torn to pieces. If you look at water vapor imagery there is alot of shear and dry air in the Central GOM. The storm is being badly sheared right now. For anymore significant development to take place the MLC just southwest of the western tip of Cuba needs take over where the shear is less.

[Stormcenter]

Here is where I thought the LLC was

yes, that is it. It is also moving more WNW right now, which is interesting because that was not expected.

If that is where the LLC is, the storm will it torn to pieces. If you look at water vapor imagery there is alot of shear and dry air in the Central GOM. The storm is being badly sheared right now. For anymore significant development to take place the MLC just southwest of the western tip of Cuba needs take over where the shear is less.

I don't think that is going to happen. The dominant center is here (click on link). Well at least right now it looks that way.

http://adds.aviationweather.gov/satelli ... itype=irbw

[Normandy]

Honestly i dont see anywhere this system can go to "strengthen"....its gonna hit somewhere as a poorly organized TD or weak TS.

[Rainband]

Good cause all we need is rain

[Stormcenter]

Honestly i dont see anywhere this system can go to "strengthen"....its gonna hit somewhere as a poorly organized TD or weak TS.

I agree the Gulf is just too hostile right now but it sure is trying.

[Air Force Met]

Well...I think the SWIR loop shows this feature was at the mid-levels...our LLC is as clear now as it has ever been.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/loop-ir2.html