New Orleans better get prepared

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#41 Postby Kennethb » Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:33 pm

While one would think that the levees are seeded, whenever I read a story on rebuilt levees there is never been anything about seeding or vegetation. Also, being that engineers are running the show, they focus on the structure and not the biological part. A levee is not complete until it has solid vegetation.

I know that this drought is not good for germination of seed. It is ironic that the levees are adjacent to water, but it would take an astronomical amount of watering to get the levees vegetated. We need our pm showers. But one large cell could drop enough rain to adversly effect a barren levee, as to could a tropical cyclone landfalling west of us.

Bermuda is a good seed to use. It is very cheap and is salt tolerant and is easy to mow. You can even disperse the seed by air.
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#42 Postby facemane » Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:29 pm

Kennethb wrote:While one would think that the levees are seeded,
Bermuda is a good seed to use. It is very cheap and is salt tolerant and is easy to mow. You can even disperse the seed by air.


Bermuda requires frequent mowing however, and grows best if it
has ample water. Bahaya on the other hand can be kept in check
if mowed once per month.
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#43 Postby cajungal » Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:32 pm

Yes, New Orleans needs to get prepared. But, not from this system called Alberto. Alberto is not going to come anywhere near New Orleans and all the convection is on the east side. New Orleans is going to continue to bake into next week and the drought will continue for now. New Orleans needs to be prepared all hurricane season long for possible future threats, but not from Alberto. This is not something to get all worked up about.
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Re: New Orleans better get prepared

#44 Postby reasonmclucus » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:42 pm

NewOrleansMeteorologist wrote:Okay, the likelihood of that trough picking up this storm has decreased as this storm has continued its NNW track. This storm, though weak, has been much further west for every advisory. A strong TS or weak hurricane isn't bad in other areas, but consider the following:

1. New Orleans is below sea level
2. The city is littered with FEMA trailers and trash
3. The main Orleans Parish drainage canals will likely be closed if this approaches, meaning that the amount of rain water that can be pumped out is greatly diminished.
4. June storms have a tendency to meander around the Gulf and dump great amounts of rain where they land.

Not time to panic, but time to get ready and prepare for a possible flood situation.


The latest computer models are favoring a track through N.O., although the models still leave a lot to be desired.

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tr ... model.html
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#45 Postby NewOrleansMeteorologist » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:53 pm

Anyone who trusts a computer is not a historian. But it's interesting how no-name posters will discredit someone's 20 years of experience in favor of a computer that has never been accurate beyond 24 hours.

No suprises. I was banned last season for criticizing the NHC for not changing its forecast of Rita to show a Louisiana landfall when it was obvious to those not paying attention to computer tracks, and instead paying attention to satellite images and upper level surface features.
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Re: New Orleans better get prepared

#46 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:07 pm

reasonmclucus wrote:
NewOrleansMeteorologist wrote:Okay, the likelihood of that trough picking up this storm has decreased as this storm has continued its NNW track. This storm, though weak, has been much further west for every advisory. A strong TS or weak hurricane isn't bad in other areas, but consider the following:

1. New Orleans is below sea level
2. The city is littered with FEMA trailers and trash
3. The main Orleans Parish drainage canals will likely be closed if this approaches, meaning that the amount of rain water that can be pumped out is greatly diminished.
4. June storms have a tendency to meander around the Gulf and dump great amounts of rain where they land.

Not time to panic, but time to get ready and prepare for a possible flood situation.


The latest computer models are favoring a track through N.O., although the models still leave a lot to be desired.

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tr ... model.html


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#47 Postby NewOrleansMeteorologist » Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:12 pm

Computers are so predictable. They started off predicting a possible track between the Florida straits and have continued moving northward. Follow trends, and don't follow computer predictions that are more than 12 hours out.
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#48 Postby beachbum_al » Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:13 pm

I could be wrong but doesn't the BAM and BAMM have to agree to be somewhat reliable and from that above pic of the computer models one is going into the Mexico/TX Line and the other is going into LA. Plus it is taking a NNE. Don't think NO or even MS have to worry since it is moving toward the NNE is most of the weather is on the East away from the center.

(Of course I am not an expert and this is only an opinion based on things that I think I have learned from here) Feel free to correct me! :D
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#49 Postby NewOrleansMeteorologist » Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:15 pm

Follow the trends. Notice where these predictions progressively continue to head.
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#50 Postby Stratosphere747 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:16 pm

Beachbum,

Do a search on wxman57 explanations on models, and specifically the BAMM's. Should help.
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#51 Postby beachbum_al » Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:13 am

No but I will. Thanks!
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#52 Postby Air Force Met » Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:05 am

NewOrleansMeteorologist wrote:Computers are so predictable. They started off predicting a possible track between the Florida straits and have continued moving northward. Follow trends, and don't follow computer predictions that are more than 12 hours out.


OK...now what?
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#53 Postby Nimbus » Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:17 am

So what happens if the eastern edge of the high seen in the water vapor loop catches Alberto rather than the trof? I hope the trof digs a little but it could be close since the trof is moving east at a good clip. Hate to see a prolonged landfall or Alberto getting dragged back out over the gulf.
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