Spears considering next birth in Namibia

[Janice]

Thanks so much, thought so...

[Regit]

I don't understand why any one would went to have there child in a third world c4a# hole. But thats just me.

Well, there is good medicine in places other than the U.S. The place where Angelina Jolie gave birth is considered by everyone I've heard speak about it to be a very fine institution. Unlike many hospitals in America, hands-on interaction with the child begins immediately and Mrs. Jolie could carry the child with a much lower level of stress. I say bravo to her for putting the best for her child ahead of what Americans might think of her.


In fact, if it weren't for the flag, you'd think this was in the U.S.

[george_r_1961]

my prayers for britney and her love child

Especially for the child...poor thing is gonna need it.

[Audrey2Katrina]

She doesn't even claim that she is from Louisiana anymore!!!

Thank goodness!

Didn't she offer some help in the Katrina aftermath? Or am I imagining things??? I agree with those who've expressed that she's really sunk pretty low, though...I also agree that she and Madonna were cut from the same mold.....take that for whatever you wish.

A2K

[alicia-w]

regarding the third world country comment, how many people are aware that the US has a pretty high infant mortality rate...

[george_r_1961]

She doesn't even claim that she is from Louisiana anymore!!!

Thank goodness!

Didn't she offer some help in the Katrina aftermath? Or am I imagining things??? I agree with those who've expressed that she's really sunk pretty low, though...I also agree that she and Madonna were cut from the same mold.....take that for whatever you wish.

A2K

Yes she did and shes to be commended for that although I do not remember exactly what it was she did. Of course shes not cold hearted; she is about as bright as a burned out lightbulb though.

[Audrey2Katrina]

Yes she did and shes to be commended for that although I do not remember exactly what it was she did. Of course shes not cold hearted; she is about as bright as a burned out lightbulb though.

No argument there!

A2K

[angelwing]

Another baby for her?????

[gtalum]

Yes, will Jolie's baby have US citizenship since it was born outside the US?

Yes, the baby is a US citizen, but barring a constitutional amendment she will never be eligible to be President since she was born outside of the US.

[Janice]

Thanks, I learned something today.

[Meso]

I live in a third world "c4a# hole" and an even worse one that Namibia... There is nothing wrong with Namibia, it's a great place actually... or so I have heard.

[coriolis]

I took my kids to Montgomery for haircuts. Does that count?

[HurricaneGirl]

why she let herself get pregnant again when she's not in a happy marriage is beyond me...

[Janice]

They are just toys for her. She will have nannies to take care of them. Think she feeds them and changes their diapers? If she did, she would probably not get pregnant again.

[angelwing]

She doesn't know how to say no.

[Audrey2Katrina]

Driving a point home there are ya, angel?

A2K

[alicia-w]

Yes, will Jolie's baby have US citizenship since it was born outside the US?

Yes, the baby is a US citizen, but barring a constitutional amendment she will never be eligible to be President since she was born outside of the US.

not true:
Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code, Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

* Anyone born inside the United States
* Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
* Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
* Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
* Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
* Any one born outside the United States, if one is an alien and as long as one is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
* A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.




http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

[Audrey2Katrina]

Just playing devil's advocate here, because I think a US citizen is a US citizen... end of story (with the only requirement being a "born" US citizen--as it has good reasoning behnd it)... but Title 8 of the US code doesn't necessarily end this potential judicial quagmire:

From Wikipedia (And I did check with the sources cited)

The current effective federal statute, Title 8, Section 1401, first passed by Congress on June 27, 1952 and last amended on October 25, 1994, of the U.S. Code provides details on the circumstances under which persons are legally recognized by the United States to be "nationals and citizens of the United States at birth".

Some legal experts interpret "natural-born citizen" to mean a "citizen at birth." Under one such interpretation, anyone who is duly recognized as a "citizen at birth" persuant to the requirements of Title 8, Section 1401 of the U.S. Code would be considered eligible for the Presidency or Vice-Presidency.

However, this statutory argument is weakened by the following considerations:

Congress probably did not intend to address presidential qualifications in the statute codified at 8 U.S.C. Section 1401, because the law actually passed by Congress does not purport to relate to the "natural born Citizen" qualification for president under Article II; and
Even assuming that it was the intent of Congress to define the constitutional qualification "natural born Citizen," an enactment by Congress would be insufficient to change the Constitution.


The whole point is moot inasmuch as I highly doubt a daughter of Britanny Spears would enter politics--but who knows. And finally, the matter WAS seemingly overlooked when George Romney ran for president in the 60's, as he was born in Mexico--but to US parents... his campaign floundered; but it would've been interesting to see, had he become a serious challenge, if the matter would have made it to the SC test! Frankly I believe if it ever got that for, their eligibility would be upheld.

A2K

[alicia-w]

there are lots of folks who run for president who are foreign born but citizens at birth. john mccain is one; he was born in the panama canal zone.

[Janice]

Would it make any difference if he was born to parents who were serving at the time and most likely on a military base?