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#181 Postby stormtruth » Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:04 pm

cycloneye wrote:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13704198/

The U.S confirms that it was ready to intercept any missile that would go to Alaska.


Intercept missiles with what? Isn't the missile defense program just a joke and big waste of $. It doesn't work.
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#182 Postby Scorpion » Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:05 pm

I don't understand the hype. They are just test-firing their missiles. They have the right to defend themselves just like any other country has. They act as a deterrent. It's not like they are planning on attacking anyone.
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#183 Postby ericinmia » Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:06 pm

stormtruth wrote:
cycloneye wrote:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13704198/

The U.S confirms that it was ready to intercept any missile that would go to Alaska.


Intercept missiles with what? Isn't the missile defense program just a joke and big waste of $. It doesn't work.


I believe it has shot down the past 8 or 9 out of 10 missiles they have launched from the pacific.

That is not a dud in my opinion!
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#184 Postby ericinmia » Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:07 pm

Scorpion wrote:I don't understand the hype. They are just test-firing their missiles. They have the right to defend themselves just like any other country has. They act as a deterrent. It's not like they are planning on attacking anyone.


Well they did say the other day... that they would lauch nuclear attacks (non founded claim as of now) at the USA if we interfered with their rocket tests
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#185 Postby Regit » Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:12 pm

ericinmia wrote:
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cycloneye wrote:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13704198/

The U.S confirms that it was ready to intercept any missile that would go to Alaska.


Intercept missiles with what? Isn't the missile defense program just a joke and big waste of $. It doesn't work.


I believe it has shot down the past 8 or 9 out of 10 missiles they have launched from the pacific.

That is not a dud in my opinion!


That success rate is for Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense, which isn't capable of shooting down ICBM's. The ICBM defense system has a success rate of 20% according to the Pentagon's chief weapons evaluator.
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#186 Postby MGC » Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:27 pm

We (USA) must put an end to this festering sore that NK is. The longer we wait the worst it will get. What are we going to do, let the NK perfect long rang intercontinental ballistic missiles that can one day hurt us???? Are we going to wait for a mushroom cloud over one of America's major cities before we wake up to take action? I am sick and tired of all the pansies that talk diplomacy. Kick some butt now so we don't have to worry in the future. General MacArthur was so right back in the 50's. Make an example of NK and let the Iranians think about it. America is the most powerful country on Earth. Lets take advantage of it and make the world a better place for all of US......MGC
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#187 Postby george_r_1961 » Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:31 pm

MGC wrote:We (USA) must put an end to this festering sore that NK is. The longer we wait the worst it will get. What are we going to do, let the NK perfect long rang intercontinental ballistic missiles that can one day hurt us???? Are we going to wait for a mushroom cloud over one of America's major cities before we wake up to take action? I am sick and tired of all the pansies that talk diplomacy. Kick some butt now so we don't have to worry in the future. General MacArthur was so right back in the 50's. Make an example of NK and let the Iranians think about it. America is the most powerful country on Earth. Lets take advantage of it and make the world a better place for all of US......MGC


Ok MGC but before we attack NK dont forget about their neighbor to the north. China will not sit idly while we pummel their neighbor to smithereens. I seriously do not think NK wants to attack the US although I do think they are hell bent on annoying us.
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#188 Postby Brent » Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:32 pm

HurricaneHunter914 wrote:Man I bet America is starting to panic an you know what sucks? The day right after America's 230th birthday this stupid N. Korea starts to attack us.


No reason to panic. They just want attention... they aren't "attacking" us. It's only a test. It's not a coincidence they did it on our Independence Day, but it doesn't really change the situation between the U.S. and North Korea. In fact, the neighbors around North Korea(especially Japan) are taking this MUCH more seriously than the U.S., and rightfully so since they are much closer and their short to medium-range missiles have flown over Japan before(see the 1998 tests)
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#189 Postby stormtruth » Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:40 pm

MGC wrote:We (USA) must put an end to this festering sore that NK is. The longer we wait the worst it will get. What are we going to do, let the NK perfect long rang intercontinental ballistic missiles that can one day hurt us???? Are we going to wait for a mushroom cloud over one of America's major cities before we wake up to take action? I am sick and tired of all the pansies that talk diplomacy. Kick some butt now so we don't have to worry in the future. General MacArthur was so right back in the 50's. Make an example of NK and let the Iranians think about it. America is the most powerful country on Earth. Lets take advantage of it and make the world a better place for all of US......MGC


Iran is more of a threat but if you attack them they can just block the oil and then we will all suffer. The Iraq War gave Iran exactly what it wanted -- it freed the Shias and took away their arch enemy - Saddam. Maybe we should keep thinking before we make another huge mistake.
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#190 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:06 am

Missiles

:uarrow: :uarrow:

Now Taiwan is going to test missiles too.
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#191 Postby Janice » Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:33 am

What scares me is that we know the terrorists are willing to die for their cause. Do you ever think North Korea thinks the same and is willing to take the chance of being wiped off the face of the earth by bombing us, thus making a statement?
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#192 Postby Yarrah » Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:59 am

This is how the North Korean press agency reacts to the situation.
U.S. Reckless Provocations Are Bound to Be Foiled
Pyongyang, (KCNA) -- The U.S. imperialist warmongers have been intensifying military provocations against the DPRK of late. Recently they illegally infiltrated strategic reconnaissance planes into the sky above the DPRK's economic waters to spy on its strategic targets in several times.
The ceaseless illegal intrusion of the planes has created a grave danger of military conflict in the air above the region.
The fact clearly shows that the U.S. is the very one which is disturbing peace and straining the situation on the Korean peninsula and is bringing into bolder relief its aggressive nature to mount a preemptive strike against the DPRK.
Such grave military provocations only precipitate its self-destruction.
The DPRK government already warned the reckless enemy by firmly stating that it would return retaliation for retaliation, all-out war for all-out-war right after the Pueblo incident in the end of the 1960s and has dealt heavy blows to the repeated military provocations of the enemy.
The large-sized reconnaissance plane "EC-121" (in April 1969), the spy plane "OAH-23G" (in August 1969) and a reconnaissance helicopter (in December 1994) all met their miserable end by the strike of the Korean People's Army while committing espionage and hostile acts in the unalienable air of the DPRK.
The KPA Air Force Command, in its recent report, warned once again that should those planes persist in their reckless air espionage, they would not be able to escape the same end as that of a tiger moth fated to perish in the flames, stating that the merciless punishment against the aggressors is the nature peculiar to the KPA revolutionary force.
The KPA never talk empty words.
The U.S. imperialists should ponder over and draw a lesson from the shameful defeats they have sustained in the past Korean war and repeated military provocations.
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#193 Postby SouthFloridawx » Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:33 am

Officials: Second long-range missile test unlikely
United Nations working to resolve North Korea missile testing crisis

(CNN) -- North Korea on Thursday defended its missile tests and promised more to come, but U.S. officials told CNN there are no signs that Pyongyang is preparing to launch another long-range Taepodong missile.

"We see no indications, nothing is imminent," said one defense official, referring to reports that North Korea was readying a second long-range missile for possible launch.

The North Korean pledge, however, came as diplomats and technical experts prepared to meet at the United Nations to work on a Security Council resolution that could impose sanctions on Pyongyang.

North Korea launched seven missiles over a 14-hour period Wednesday, sparking an international outcry as the secretive communist nation broke its own moratorium on the launches.

The country's "exercise of its legitimate right as a sovereign state is neither bound to any international law nor to bilateral or multilateral agreements ... ," a Foreign Ministry spokesman said, according to the state-run news agency KCNA.

Pyongyang also warned any country that might want to interfere.

North Korea "will have no option but to take stronger physical actions of other forms, should any other country dare take issue with the exercises and put pressure upon it," the spokesman said, in Pyongyang's first official comment since test-firing the missiles on Wednesday.

The Bush administration on Thursday dismissed North Korea's threat to test-fire more missiles and pressed for international efforts to get Pyongyang to "cease and desist" such actions, The Associated Press reported.

"We're certainly not going to overreact ... to these wild statements out of Pyongyang and North Korea," said Undersecretary R. Nicholas Burns. "We've seen them before," the AP reported.

Earlier this week, North Korea said it would respond to any pre-emptive U.S. military attack with an "annihilating strike and a nuclear war," according to KCNA reports.

"The latest successful missile launches were part of the routine military exercises staged by the KPA (Korean People's Army) to increase the nation's military capacity for self-defense," the spokesman said.

"The KPA will go on with missile launch exercises as part of its efforts to bolster deterrent for self-defense in the future, too."

U.N. Security Council members denounced the tests and said they are considering a draft resolution -- presented by Japan -- that would impose sanctions on the Communist nation's missile program.

The resolution would prevent nations from providing money, materials and technology that could contribute to North Korea's "missile and other weapons of mass destruction programs."

But China and Russia have expressed the desire for a weaker statement -- something that would avoid sanctions and the weight of international law.

"This is the view of the international community, that actions taken should be constructive to maintaining peace in that part of the world," Chinese Ambassador Wang Guangya said.

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday that Russia is concerned and disappointed about North Korea's missile tests, but stressed the need for diplomacy and a return to six-nation talks to defuse tension over Pyongyang's nuclear program, The Associated Press reported.

China is one of five permanent council members, including Russia, with veto power and, as North Korea's neighbor, is Pyongyang's main provider of food, oil and economic aid. (Security Council facts)

All of the seven missiles fired by North Korea early Wednesday local time -- six short-range variants of the Soviet-era Scud and one long-range rocket -- fell into the Sea of Japan. (See a map of the North Korean tests)

The long-range missile, the Taepodong-2, failed about 40 seconds after it was fired. Some analysts believe it could be capable of reaching the United States.

The White House has said Wednesday's missile launches posed no immediate threat to the United States, but Washington has dispatched Christopher Hill, its top negotiator in the six-party talks, to consult with U.S. allies in Asia.

China is sending a top diplomat to Pyongyang next week to try to restart the stalled talks, news agencies reported.

Six nations -- the two Koreas, China, Russia, Japan and the United States -- have been meeting to talk about Pyongyang's nuclear ambitions.

The six-party talks have stalled in recent months as North Korea has insisted on direct talks with Washington.

The United States and Japan had urged Pyongyang to stick with the moratorium on long-range missile tests it declared in 1999, after it fired a Taepodong-1 missile over Japan in 1998.

President Bush said the missile tests only serve to further isolate North Korea, and vowed to work with the other members in the six-party talks "to remind the leader of North Korea that there is a better way forward for his people."

"It's their choice to make, but what these firings of the rockets have done is isolate the North Koreans further," Bush said. "And that's sad for the people of North Korea."

Some analysts said the tests were also an effort by impoverished North Korea to redirect attention to the six-party talks. (Watch why North Korea may be flexing its muscles -- 3:31)

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CNN's Jamie McIntyre contributed to this report.

Copyright 2006 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press contributed to this report.

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http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... index.html
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#194 Postby kmanWX » Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:52 am

ericinmia wrote:
stormtruth wrote:
cycloneye wrote:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13704198/

The U.S confirms that it was ready to intercept any missile that would go to Alaska.


Intercept missiles with what? Isn't the missile defense program just a joke and big waste of $. It doesn't work.


I believe it has shot down the past 8 or 9 out of 10 missiles they have launched from the pacific.

That is not a dud in my opinion!

I just hope its certainly not a dud if north korea did decide to fire missles towards the US. There's no possible way to predict where the missles will go to have the most effiecent missle protection system.
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#195 Postby kevin » Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:02 pm

The missiles which were shot down by our anti-missile weapons, had sensors attached which allowed us to know where they were. Hitting a moving target that is in space or on the edge of space is an enormous computational problem.
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#196 Postby gtalum » Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:09 pm

kevin wrote:The missiles which were shot down by our anti-missile weapons, had sensors attached which allowed us to know where they were. Hitting a moving target that is in space or on the edge of space is an enormous computational problem.


Maybe the N Koreans will be kind enough to place such a sensor on their warheads. :lol:
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#197 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:26 pm

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/07/06/D8IMLM0O0.html

:uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow:

More blah,blah,blah from North Korea.They wanted attention,they got it as it's the main news around the world right now.
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#198 Postby stormtruth » Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:35 pm

gtalum wrote:
kevin wrote:The missiles which were shot down by our anti-missile weapons, had sensors attached which allowed us to know where they were. Hitting a moving target that is in space or on the edge of space is an enormous computational problem.


Maybe the N Koreans will be kind enough to place such a sensor on their warheads. :lol:


LOL :lol:
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#199 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:48 pm

and we would defeat China relatively easily in a war as well.

People, remember, we ar ethe most powerful nation, with the 2 best air forces in the world (US Air Force and US Navy). War today is primarily fought from the air and we can devastate China without much problem
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#200 Postby Pburgh » Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:55 pm

Hey, don't forget the Marines. My nephew was a Marine pilot!!
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