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#21 Postby stormtruth » Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:12 pm

A lot of people don't realize the it was a WHO doctor that spotted and kept the SARS outbreak from becoming much worse than it could have been. This doctor later died from SARS, the very virus he identified and warned the world about. WHO has been very aggressive about trying to convey just how serious H5N1 is and the devastation it could cause. Don't discount the World Health Organization just because it is a UN organization -- I know there are some anti UN people on this board. But please understand the WHO does very good things and it was the WHO that saved us from a much more serious SARS outbreak.

Dr. Carlo Urbani who died to save us
http://www.who.int/csr/sars/urbani/en/

You might also find the CDC credible:
Dr. Julie Gerberding, the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said that Avian Flu currently poses the biggest
threat to the world.
http://www.cbc.ca/story/science/nationa ... 50221.html

Fox News: CDC says Bird Flu not Media Hype
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,182682,00.html
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#22 Postby Audrey2Katrina » Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:46 pm

You might also find the CDC credible:
Dr. Julie Gerberding, the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said that Avian Flu currently poses the biggest
threat to the world.


Actually, now that you mention it .. I DO... and instead of that year and a half old article you cite... might I offer this one, THIS year, from the same source:

CDC Says Bird Flu Not Serious Threat to Humans
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2006/04/18/cdc_says_bird_flu_not_serious_threat_to_humans.htm

As far as expecting any Media outlet.. being FOX or CNN or what-have-you being a credible source of what isn't "hype"... well it's like asking the fox if he raided the henhouse. Suffice it to say that even the CDC has come around to the very viewpoint I've been attempting to relate. Of course the media that positively THRIVES on hype.. didn't play this point up at all... not when they can keep everyone on the edge of their seats (and tuning in) worried about something in a manner that does little good except for their ratings.

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#23 Postby stormtruth » Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:25 pm

Audrey2Katrina wrote:
You might also find the CDC credible:
Dr. Julie Gerberding, the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said that Avian Flu currently poses the biggest
threat to the world.


Actually, now that you mention it .. I DO... and instead of that year and a half old article you cite... might I offer this one, THIS year, from the same source:

CDC Says Bird Flu Not Serious Threat to Humans
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2006/04/18/cdc_says_bird_flu_not_serious_threat_to_humans.htm

As far as expecting any Media outlet.. being FOX or CNN or what-have-you being a credible source of what isn't "hype"... well it's like asking the fox if he raided the henhouse. Suffice it to say that even the CDC has come around to the very viewpoint I've been attempting to relate. Of course the media that positively THRIVES on hype.. didn't play this point up at all... not when they can keep everyone on the edge of their seats (and tuning in) worried about something in a manner that does little good except for their ratings.

A2K


It was the CDC that said it is not hype in that article not Fox News.

Dr. Julie Gerberding flip-flopped :lol:
They'll flip back again if they start seeing signs of any h2h transmission --which they hopefully won't see.

If the WHO increases H5N1 to a Phase Four the CDC will raise the alarm bells. Currently we are in Phase Three
http://www.healthnewsblog.com/cgi-bin/h ... log=527061

The WHO does our vigilance for us. The WHO, which is an important part of the UN, saved us from SARS and they are heroic warriors on the front line in the battles against H5N1. But the argument that an H5N1 threat is unwarranted speculation is an absolutely ludicrous argument. There is a clear risk and danger from H5N1 just like there was from SARS. We are not immune to deadly disease outbreaks. It is also assinine to call the UN a joke. The WHO's efforts alone make them worthwhile.
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#24 Postby Audrey2Katrina » Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:48 pm

But the argument that an H5N1 threat is unwarranted speculation is an absolutely ludicrous argument


What is "ludicrous" is characterizing that :uarrow: as what I'd said, when any cursory review will show it wasn't. I made no statement anywhere that an avian flu "threat" was unwarranted-- what I clearly said was that all this hysteria about it amounted to unwarranted "ALARMISM". The former and later statements being quite different.

And I'll give WHO credit where it's deserved. Good work on SARS... but I still maintain that the levels of hystrionics displayed by "some" about an avian virus that has been around for nearly half a century, and globally is responsible for a little over 100 deaths is... well, "unwarranted"... on the other hand nobody, (certainly not I) happens to be maintaining that there is "no" threat at all.

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#25 Postby stormtruth » Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:05 pm

Audrey2Katrina wrote:
But the argument that an H5N1 threat is unwarranted speculation is an absolutely ludicrous argument


What is "ludicrous" is characterizing that :uarrow: as what I'd said, when any cursory review will show it wasn't. I made no statement anywhere that an avian flu "threat" was unwarranted-- what I clearly said was that all this hysteria about it amounted to unwarranted "ALARMISM". The former and later statements being quite different.

And I'll give WHO credit where it's deserved. Good work on SARS... but I still maintain that the levels of hystrionics displayed by "some" about an avian virus that has been around for nearly half a century, and globally is responsible for a little over 100 deaths is... well, "unwarranted"... on the other hand nobody, (certainly not I) happens to be maintaining that there is "no" threat at all.

A2K


I see. Thanks for saying that. Hey, maybe it was that ABC movie that created all the megahype. :lol:
http://www.watcherswatch.com/cgi-bin/wa ... tch=508061

Avian viruses are certainly not new but I think that this particular avian flu strain, H5N1, first debuted in Hong Kong in 1997.

H5N1 is a weird type of threat. If it doesn't mutate then it is little threat at all to us. If it does mutate and start spreading from human-to-human then it becomes a very serious threat. That reality of H5N1 makes it easy for a journalist or an anchor to take an overly alarmist tone or take an underwhelming approach that dismisses the threat too easily.
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#26 Postby jusforsean » Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:23 pm

check out this forum on birdflu very interesting info

http://www.avianflutalk.com/default.asp
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