NON-TROPICAL LOW PRESSURE/GALE AREA, S of NS

Matt-hurricanewatcher · #121 Postby **Matt-hurricanewatcher** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:05 am

I say 45 to 50 knots right now...We will know some time with in the hour on nrl if they upgrade.

Derek Ortt · #122 Postby **Derek Ortt** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:39 am

not one of the global models is showing anything at the surface, in terms of a well-defined closed low

weatherwoman132 · #123 Postby **weatherwoman132** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:45 am

beryl?

Matt-hurricanewatcher · #124 Postby **Matt-hurricanewatcher** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:48 am

I wonder what a computer model has to do with this having a large area of low pressure. Which is warm core. Also shows the lower clouds turning in a counterclock-wise. Show me obs and satellite any day over the gfs global models...

Thunder44 · #125 Postby **Thunder44** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:49 am

The low further to north seem to have more a sub-tropical appearance now. Visble images suggest a more broad low-level center than tight on the south edge of the convection.

Derek Ortt · #126 Postby **Derek Ortt** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:50 am

center is still exposed

Scorpion · #127 Postby **Scorpion** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:51 am

Derek Ortt wrote:center is still exposed

Alberto was exposed for most of its life.

Matt-hurricanewatcher · #128 Postby **Matt-hurricanewatcher** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:52 am

Alison,Arlene and Alberto all had there LLC exposed. Heck they whre more exposed then this.

Thunder44 · #129 Postby **Thunder44** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:56 am

Derek Ortt wrote:center is still exposed

Partially, on the south side yes.

Derek Ortt · #130 Postby **Derek Ortt** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:57 am

its also not entirely detatched from the frontal system; thus, it does not meet the definition of a tropical or subtropical cyclone

Nimbus · #131 Postby **Nimbus** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:57 am

Convection starting to wrap near the 33n 75w center. Less shear from the southwest on the north side of the center as this cuts off from the front.

Any models mention rain in Florida when the shear kicks around from the opposite direction?

cheezyWXguy · #132 Postby **cheezyWXguy** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:29 am

Floater 1 is now on 2nd low as tropical invest area

Derek Ortt · #133 Postby **Derek Ortt** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:30 am

low #2 is now invest 97L according to NRL

#134 Postby **brunota2003** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:31 am

yep...time to start a new thread...

cheezyWXguy · #135 Postby **cheezyWXguy** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:32 am

cool...

cheezyWXguy · #136 Postby **cheezyWXguy** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:33 am

Ill do it...

#137 Postby **brunota2003** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:33 am

ok...I'm not that big into actually starting new threads... :lol:

Thunder44 · #138 Postby **Thunder44** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:40 am

We need this thread still open for the low further north.

Matt-hurricanewatcher · #139 Postby **Matt-hurricanewatcher** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:53 pm

Because of a little trough this was not upgraded. As far as I'm concerned this system was for real. Thats my option no ones going to beat it out of me ever.

Derek Ortt · #140 Postby **Derek Ortt** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:53 pm

a system is not a tropical cyclone if it is attached to a front. Just does not meet the accepted scientific definition of a TC

NON-TROPICAL LOW PRESSURE/GALE AREA, S of NS

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