Atlantic Tropical Waves,Comments,Sat Pics Thread #2

[wxman57]

NHC appears to be ignoring what looks to be a TS near 40N/65W this morning. Certainly looks much better than Alberto ever did. Wonder if they'd ignore it if this system was in the Gulf?

http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/98L.gif

[skysummit]

Wow...that's impressive! You think they're ignoring it since it's getting really close to its death bed?

[HurricaneHunter914]

They do mention that its organizing, but its too high so they think it has no chance. I bet during the after season analysis they'll name this the Unamed Subtropical Storm.

[Javlin]

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/avn-l.jpg

Wow look at these two waves, one near PR and the other one near Nicaragua. Any possible development?

I am asking the same ? about 20N 60W looks like a slight rotation maybe just the eyes

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/loop-vis.html

The signature looks 1/2 decent also in the big picture.

[Extremeweatherguy]

NHC appears to be ignoring what looks to be a TS near 40N/65W this morning. Certainly looks much better than Alberto ever did. Wonder if they'd ignore it if this system was in the Gulf?

http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/98L.gif

I agree. This thing looks very healthy right now.

[wxman57]

NHC appears to be ignoring what looks to be a TS near 40N/65W this morning. Certainly looks much better than Alberto ever did. Wonder if they'd ignore it if this system was in the Gulf?

http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/98L.gif

I agree. This thing looks very healthy right now.

I'd wager that if this same system was in the eastern Gulf heading to Florida that the NHC would have a hurricane warning out. But they've already said they're going to ignore it and let it head out to sea.

[curtadams]

NHC appears to be ignoring what looks to be a TS near 40N/65W this morning. Certainly looks much better than Alberto ever did. Wonder if they'd ignore it if this system was in the Gulf?

http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/98L.gif

They punted and called it nontropical. I doubt they could get recon in in time and without airplanes we'll never know. Of course they would care if it were in the Gulf. But whatever it is now, by tomorrow it will be a routine extratropical storm. I agree it looks a lot like Alberto. I wouldn't want to be boating in that swirl.

On a related note, the GFS is developing a blizzard of low-level vorticies over the Gulf Stream for the next week, but doesn't turn any into substantive storms.

[drezee]

From a friend of mine from the NHC:

The system you are referring to is an extratropical low...perhaps slightly subtropical...but certainly not a TC. The system is being carried as a gale area by the Ocean Prediction Center, which is the correct method for handling a system like that. It is attached to a frontal system, plus it is moving quickly over much cooler water -- SSTs in the 60's

[Thunder44]

From a friend of mine from the NHC:

The system you are referring to is an extratropical low...perhaps slightly subtropical...but certainly not a TC. The system is being carried as a gale area by the Ocean Prediction Center, which is the correct method for handling a system like that. It is attached to a frontal system, plus it is moving quickly over much cooler water -- SSTs in the 60's

http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/A_sfc_full_ocean.gif

[AnnularCane]

HFloyd, that is so cute! Where in the world did you find that cartoon? (and do they have more weather humor?)

I'm not H. Floyd, but it might have been from here.

http://www.sullivanet.com/misc/hurricanes/hurrart2.htm

[Rainband]

NHC appears to be ignoring what looks to be a TS near 40N/65W this morning. Certainly looks much better than Alberto ever did. Wonder if they'd ignore it if this system was in the Gulf?

http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/98L.gif

I agree. This thing looks very healthy right now.

I'd wager that if this same system was in the eastern Gulf heading to Florida that the NHC would have a hurricane warning out. But they've already said they're going to ignore it and let it head out to sea.

That makes sense.

[Extremeweatherguy]

NHC appears to be ignoring what looks to be a TS near 40N/65W this morning. Certainly looks much better than Alberto ever did. Wonder if they'd ignore it if this system was in the Gulf?

http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/98L.gif

I agree. This thing looks very healthy right now.

I'd wager that if this same system was in the eastern Gulf heading to Florida that the NHC would have a hurricane warning out. But they've already said they're going to ignore it and let it head out to sea.

That makes sense.

JB said that he thinks this is a TC too. Seems to me like a lot of people are perplexed as to the reasoning that the NHC is writing this off. Certainly looks MUCH better than Alberto.

[Rainband]

No threat to land. No need to waste tax payers money maybe.

[O Town]

HFloyd, that is so cute! Where in the world did you find that cartoon? (and do they have more weather humor?)

I'm not H. Floyd, but it might have been from here.

http://www.sullivanet.com/misc/hurricanes/hurrart2.htm

Great link. I bet we will see a few more of those cartoons this season.

[wxman57]

Here's a mid afternoon color shot of the unnamed TS. I think it looks more tropical than "extratropical". Perhaps the NHC just figured it would go away quietly into the higher wind shear just to its north, so they didn't want to start issuing advisories? I know it won't be affecting the U.S. Coast, but I think it would be a hard argument to make that Alberto was a better-organized TS than this system.

http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/98La.gif

[Extremeweatherguy]

Here's a mid afternoon color shot of the unnamed TS. I think it looks more tropical than "extratropical". Perhaps the NHC just figured it would go away quietly into the higher wind shear just to its north, so they didn't want to start issuing advisories? I know it won't be affecting the U.S. Coast, but I think it would be a hard argument to make that Alberto was a better-organized TS than this system.

http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/98La.gif

I agree 100%, and with that eye I would not even be surprised if this was a hurricane.

[wxman57]

Here's a mid afternoon color shot of the unnamed TS. I think it looks more tropical than "extratropical". Perhaps the NHC just figured it would go away quietly into the higher wind shear just to its north, so they didn't want to start issuing advisories? I know it won't be affecting the U.S. Coast, but I think it would be a hard argument to make that Alberto was a better-organized TS than this system.

http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/98La.gif

I agree 100%, and with that eye I would not even be surprised if this was a hurricane.

That's not a true eye, it's just a center of circulation. There's no eyewall, just a ring of moderate showers around the center. But I do think it's quite clearly a TS.

[drezee]

From a friend of mine from the NHC:

The system you are referring to is an extratropical low...perhaps slightly subtropical...but certainly not a TC. The system is being carried as a gale area by the Ocean Prediction Center, which is the correct method for handling a system like that. It is attached to a frontal system, plus it is moving quickly over much cooler water -- SSTs in the 60's

http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/A_sfc_full_ocean.gif

1010mb? They wish...

[Aquawind]

The water below is cold.. 64W 41N

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/tafb/atl_anal.gif

[drezee]

Here's a mid afternoon color shot of the unnamed TS. I think it looks more tropical than "extratropical". Perhaps the NHC just figured it would go away quietly into the higher wind shear just to its north, so they didn't want to start issuing advisories? I know it won't be affecting the U.S. Coast, but I think it would be a hard argument to make that Alberto was a better-organized TS than this system.

http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/98La.gif

I agree 100%, and with that eye I would not even be surprised if this was a hurricane.

That's not a true eye, it's just a center of circulation. There's no eyewall, just a ring of moderate showers around the center. But I do think it's quite clearly a TS.

It will pass very near a buoy, the topi link is below:

http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=86957