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#181 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:28 pm

lol...lets just see what this thing looks like in the morning...I think by then we'll have a good idea on whats going on
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#182 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:38 pm

Lets see if it can gain convection over night, then we'll be able to tell whether to write this off or continue to watch this.
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#183 Postby Grease Monkey » Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:40 pm

cheezywxman wrote:lol...lets just see what this thing looks like in the morning...I think by then we'll have a good idea on whats going on


So I guess we'll know in less than 20 minutes.
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#184 Postby Noles2006 » Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:45 pm

cheezywxman wrote:
george_r_1961 wrote:Well im about ready to say goodbye to 97L..looks worse everytime i look at it. There is little if any convection left. Dry air seems to be killing it. Its getting difficult to find the llc too as it has become even more diffuse. IMO chances of tropical development..at least in the short term..are slim to none.


The why has the probability of cyclone genesys increased?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/gparm/xyrfpr.gif


That chart is for the next 24 hours. Think of it like this: yesterday, it looked like if any development was to occur, it would happen on Tuesday [tomorrow] because it needed time to break off from the front to develop tropically, then after that the next trough will come and sweep it away. Well, that 24 hour window has arrived, but there's still a <2% chance of this thing developing. I don't think this will become Beryl.
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#185 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:49 pm

Things do change overnight so I won't write this off yet.
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#186 Postby shaggy » Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:51 pm

i am feeling much more at ease now seeing that it hasn't tried to get its act together to quickly!
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#187 Postby clfenwi » Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:12 am

06Z TWD comments (in the Atlantic Ocean section):

A BAND OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS PRIMARILY
ASSOCIATED WITH A LOW PRESSURE AREA ALONG A FRONTAL ZONE EXTENDS
FROM THE NORTHERN BAHAMAS NORTHEASTWARD OVER THE ATLANTIC. THE
LOW IS LOCATED NEAR 31N74W. THERE ARE NO SIGNS OF TROPICAL
DEVELOPMENT AT THIS TIME...HOWEVER...THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR A
TROPICAL DEPRESSION TO FORM DURING THE NEXT DAY OR TWO.
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#188 Postby Thunder44 » Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:32 am

I notice that the people who write the TWD like to insert commets made in the TWO in their discussions of systems. I don't think it offers anything really new.
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#189 Postby clfenwi » Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:43 am

Thunder44 wrote:I notice that the people who write the TWD like to insert commets made in the TWO in their discussions of systems. I don't think it offers anything really new.


Cut the intern some slack... :lol:
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#190 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:46 am

Surface low seems to be developing at 34 north/74.5 west. Tracking very slowly to the west. Popcorn convection starting to develop over the southeastern side. Buoy on the western side is turning with it....That is how I know this maybe a LLC.
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#191 Postby Thunder44 » Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:03 am

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ABNT20 KNHC 180854
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
530 AM EDT TUE JUL 18 2006

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

A BROAD LOW PRESSURE AREA IS LOCATED A COUPLE HUNDRED MILES
SOUTHEAST OF THE COAST OF NORTH CAROLINA. ALTHOUGH THE LOW IS
CURRENTLY NOT WELL-ORGANIZED...THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR A TROPICAL
DEPRESSION TO FORM DURING THE NEXT DAY OR TWO. AN AIR FORCE
RESERVE RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT IS SCHEDULED TO INVESTIGATE THE
AREA LATER TODAY...IF NECESSARY. INTERESTS ALONG THE U.S. EASTERN
SEABOARD SHOULD MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THIS SYSTEM.


$$

FORECASTER PASCH
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#192 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:13 am

Appears to becoming better organized with a LLC developing at 33 north/74.2 west...This system is developing deep convection over its southeastern side at this hour...Also a buoy to the north shows the winds going from the north a few hours ago to northeast. Which is a sign that the trough is weaking. But still a sign that the northern side is still elongated. A buoy to its to its west is showing that part is very well organized. Quickscat data that we did get shows the trough has weaken,

This is what I expect I think the convection will keep firing. In there maybe a closed cirulation by the time recon gets in there. So theres a chance...
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#193 Postby Thunder44 » Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:28 am

On the loop, they still anaylize a surface trough now extending from a low east of NC to SW through the Atlantic in Florida. There is a 1013mb low, that has been analyized just west of that growing blob of convection. The LLC looks like it could be forming a little further east than that.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-avn.html

If it continues to increase convection and in organization this morning they will probably send the plane in there today.
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#194 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:22 am

Those who write the TWD's are not true interns, even if their job title states as such. All TAFB perseonnel are currently GS9 or higher
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#195 Postby drezee » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:22 am

Looks like we have a developing TC now:

Early Morning Zoomed in Visible
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#196 Postby drezee » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:33 am

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WHXX01 KWBC 181122
CHGHUR

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO TPC/NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONES.

NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER NORTH ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL972006) ON 20060718 0600 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS... ...36 HRS...
060718 0600 060718 1800 060719 0600 060719 1800

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMD 31.5N 73.5W 31.8N 73.8W 32.1N 74.2W 32.7N 74.8W
BAMM 31.5N 73.5W 32.1N 74.1W 32.5N 74.7W 33.1N 75.2W
A98E 31.5N 73.5W 31.8N 73.0W 32.7N 72.9W 33.5N 73.1W
LBAR 31.5N 73.5W 31.8N 73.4W 32.6N 73.8W 33.8N 74.2W
SHIP 25KTS 26KTS 29KTS 32KTS
DSHP 25KTS 26KTS 29KTS 32KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS... ..120 HRS...
060720 0600 060721 0600 060722 0600 060723 0600

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMD 33.4N 75.1W 33.8N 75.9W 33.4N 74.9W 33.9N 72.6W
BAMM 33.5N 75.7W 34.1N 76.1W 34.1N 74.2W 35.2N 70.1W
A98E 34.8N 73.6W 36.5N 73.5W 38.5N 67.7W 43.3N 53.4W
LBAR 34.9N 74.1W 38.4N 72.5W 42.3N 65.9W 48.1N 52.2W
SHIP 35KTS 38KTS 41KTS 42KTS
DSHP 35KTS 38KTS 41KTS 42KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 31.5N LONCUR = 73.5W DIRCUR = 85DEG SPDCUR = 4KT
LATM12 = 31.1N LONM12 = 74.5W DIRM12 = 107DEG SPDM12 = 5KT
LATM24 = 31.9N LONM24 = 75.2W
WNDCUR = 25KT RMAXWD = 40NM WNDM12 = 25KT
CENPRS = 1012MB OUTPRS = 1015MB OUTRAD = 150NM SDEPTH = D
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM

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#197 Postby linkerweather » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:41 am

drezee wrote:Looks like we have a developing TC now:

Early Morning Zoomed in Visible


I am not saying that there isn't a low there, but those first vis images certainly do not indicate that there is.
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#198 Postby drezee » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:46 am

linkerweather wrote:
drezee wrote:Looks like we have a developing TC now:

Early Morning Zoomed in Visible


I am not saying that there isn't a low there, but those first vis images certainly do not indicate that there is.


From the TWD: A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IS LOCATED A COUPLE
HUNDRED MILES SOUTHEAST OF THE COAST OF NORTH CAROLINA.

And you are completely and utterly entitled to your opinion...I believe that when the STDS or TWO is issued the NHC will not downplay it...
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#199 Postby Thunder44 » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:47 am

drezee wrote:
linkerweather wrote:
drezee wrote:Looks like we have a developing TC now:

Early Morning Zoomed in Visible


I am not saying that there isn't a low there, but those first vis images certainly do not indicate that there is.


And you are completely and utterly entitled to your opinion...


I see a broad LLC that is centered in the middle of that blob and possibly elongated to the NW
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#200 Postby linkerweather » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:53 am

drezee wrote:
linkerweather wrote:
drezee wrote:Looks like we have a developing TC now:

Early Morning Zoomed in Visible


I am not saying that there isn't a low there, but those first vis images certainly do not indicate that there is.


From the TWD: A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IS LOCATED A COUPLE
HUNDRED MILES SOUTHEAST OF THE COAST OF NORTH CAROLINA.

And you are completely and utterly entitled to your opinion...I believe that when the STDS or TWO is issued the NHC will not downplay it...


Once again, I wasn't saying that there isn't a LLC there, but simply from those very first vis images there was no evidence that a tropical cyclone is forming.
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