SST'S and Anomalies in Atlantic Thread #4

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#141 Postby JonathanBelles » Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:21 pm

Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
fact789 wrote:yikes!!!


Fact789 what is scary is the dark spot off the west coast of
Florida just west of Tampa Bay/St.Pete...that dark color can
support above Category 5 150-165 knot winds....

That dark color is also visible in the loop current just
south of the Gulf Coast.


we gonna be in trouble
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#142 Postby gatorcane » Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:22 pm

HurricaneHunter914 wrote:If only we could get a TD in the NW Caribbean, then we can actually get a major hurricane to add to the 06' Season.


I would say there is a pretty good chance of something getting in there before this season is over....I would put money on it :wink:
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#143 Postby ROCK » Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:25 pm

I suspect things will get hairy some time in August with this much heat in the GOM and Carib.....
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#144 Postby gatorcane » Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:27 pm

ROCK wrote:I suspect things will get hairy some time in August with this much heat in the GOM and Carib.....


Agreed, hurricanes are supposed to transfer excess heat out of the tropics to northern lattitudes - with very little in the way of cloud cover or shower activity across the Atlantic for the most part in June/July the heat builds even more - once the turbulence (e.g. shear) dies off and things calm, the excess heat from the above normal SSTs across the Atlantic builds up across the atmosphere in the tropics and that is when it gets very hairy :eek:
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#145 Postby benny » Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:53 pm

gatorcane wrote:
ROCK wrote:I suspect things will get hairy some time in August with this much heat in the GOM and Carib.....


Agreed, hurricanes are supposed to transfer excess heat out of the tropics to northern lattitudes - with very little in the way of cloud cover or shower activity across the Atlantic for the most part in June/July the heat builds even more - once the turbulence (e.g. shear) dies off and things calm, the excess heat from the above normal SSTs across the Atlantic builds up across the atmosphere in the tropics and that is when it gets very hairy :eek:


Usually this isn't the case though... the overwhelming factor in actual SSTs is the strength of the surface tradewinds... modulated mostly by the Atlantic high. Surface radiation fluxes don't really do much to the ocean if the trades keep up with a deeper mixed layer. Look at years with a lot of sunshine in the deep tropics... eg 1994... it was super cold in the deep tropics because of the enhanced tradewinds/atlantic ridge.
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#146 Postby windycity » Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:41 am

reguarding SSTS, we also need to keep in mind that while SSTs may be slightly above normal, its the over-all heat content that really matters. They may be higher or lower than meerly SSTs. I beleive the GOM is a good example.
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#147 Postby Trugunzn » Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:28 pm

2004
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#148 Postby windycity » Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:52 pm

Thanks for posting those graphs, they show what im talking about. :wink:
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#149 Postby Grease Monkey » Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:52 pm

Can someone please explain to me what the difference between Depth 26C Isotherm and Ocean Heat Content?
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#150 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:28 pm

Trugunzn wrote:2004

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I think we can all see what area is the greatest threat as of right now.
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#151 Postby Aquawind » Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:06 pm

Updated SSTs.. Warm up north alright and a couple warm EPAC spots..

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/tafb/atl_anom.gif

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/tafb/atl_anal.gif
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#152 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:35 pm

I say it's about normal now in the MDR area.
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#153 Postby SouthFloridawx » Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:02 pm

cycloneye wrote:I say it's about normal now in the MDR area.


However it still remains very very warm in the Northen Atlantic, check out those 3+ above normal temps.
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#154 Postby Grease Monkey » Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:18 pm

I would think these SST anomalies can shift a lot by around Mid-August because of the fact that the waters are still pretty warm well below just the surface temps, so it makes it easy for the surface temps to warm up.
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#155 Postby Aquawind » Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:24 pm

SouthFloridawx wrote:
cycloneye wrote:I say it's about normal now in the MDR area.


However it still remains very very warm in the Northen Atlantic, check out those 3+ above normal temps.
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Let me understand this SouthFlridawx... You don't think Luis can read the maps? Didn't he just reply to my same links. I don't get that post.. No Howevers about it.. He is fully aware and the graphic wasn't needed a link will do..
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#156 Postby SouthFloridawx » Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:28 pm

Let me understand this SouthFlridawx... You don't think Luis can read the maps? Didn't he just reply to my same links. I don't get that post.. No Howevers about it.. He is fully aware and the graphic wasn't needed a link will do..

I aplogize, maybe I just misread what you were saying.
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#157 Postby Aquawind » Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:35 pm

What?

Updated SSTs.. Warm up north alright and a couple warm EPAC spots..


I say it's about normal now in the MDR area.


I don't understand how you could misread either of us..even maybe whatever that means..
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#158 Postby Aquawind » Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:34 pm

FYI.. SouthFloridawx and I clarified things in private and it's cool.. He's a good guy just like we thought.. :D

Back to the subject.. Warm waters eh...
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#159 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:35 pm

Aquawind wrote:FYI.. SouthFloridawx and I clarified things in private and it's cool.. He's a good guy just like we thought.. :D

Back to the subject.. Warm waters eh...


Yep,nothing bad between us.All is cool. :)
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#160 Postby whereverwx » Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:43 pm

The water off the coast of Spain and Portugal look pretty warm. Wouldn't it be interesting if another storm, similar to Vince, formed near that region this year? :P

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