99L Invest E of Windwards,Comments,Sat Pics,Models Thread #2

This is the general tropical discussion area. Anyone can take their shot at predicting a storms path.

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Forum rules

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K. For official information, please refer to products from the National Hurricane Center and National Weather Service.

Help Support Storm2K
Message
Author
Air Force Met
Military Met
Military Met
Posts: 4372
Age: 56
Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2003 9:30 am
Location: Roan Mountain, TN

#21 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:02 pm

wxman57 wrote: Matt, I still don't see any ship reports on those satelltie images. I'm plotting all ships in GARP and have nothing there. Can you post an image or the link that shows a ship report? The web site doesn't seem to mention ship reports on the satellite images. I saw the ship report yesterday at 29W, but that was well east of the disturbance.


Here is the report of the NW wind...

28/08 13009 7.9 -38.0 27.5 8.3 330 11 ID= 13009

Not sure if it is a drifting buoy or what.
0 likes   

Air Force Met
Military Met
Military Met
Posts: 4372
Age: 56
Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2003 9:30 am
Location: Roan Mountain, TN

#22 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:07 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:It doe's not have it on the loop any more...Also at 22 knot forward speed the quickscats would not pick up a westly wind.


Sure it would. A west wind is a west wind. Remember: Storm relative motion plays tricks on the eyes.

Also remember...you can have a NW wind and it NOT be a closed circulation. It's called a "Cusp" and you see them in streamline analysis all the time...especially in tropical waves that are close to closing off a low...but aren't there just yet.
0 likes   

User avatar
cycloneye
Admin
Admin
Posts: 145285
Age: 68
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:54 am
Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico

#23 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:09 pm

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=41041


This is bouy 41041 in the Central Atlantic located at 14.6n-46.0w.Let's see what changes if any the data from this bouy shows as the system gets closer to that longitud.
0 likes   
Visit the Caribbean-Central America Weather Thread where you can find at first post web cams,radars
and observations from Caribbean basin members Click Here

Derek Ortt

#24 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:10 pm

no... nothing more recent yet. The new one should be out soon
0 likes   

User avatar
AJC3
Admin
Admin
Posts: 3999
Age: 61
Joined: Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:04 pm
Location: Ballston Spa, New York
Contact:

#25 Postby AJC3 » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:16 pm

Air Force Met wrote:
wxman57 wrote: Matt, I still don't see any ship reports on those satelltie images. I'm plotting all ships in GARP and have nothing there. Can you post an image or the link that shows a ship report? The web site doesn't seem to mention ship reports on the satellite images. I saw the ship report yesterday at 29W, but that was well east of the disturbance.


Here is the report of the NW wind...

28/08 13009 7.9 -38.0 27.5 8.3 330 11 ID= 13009

Not sure if it is a drifting buoy or what.


Yup...that ID is a drifting buoy.
0 likes   

User avatar
cheezyWXguy
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 6108
Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:29 am
Location: Dallas, TX

#26 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:21 pm

so what does that mean...the wind is a confusion error?
0 likes   

User avatar
TampaFl
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1904
Age: 67
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:23 am
Location: Tampa, FL

#27 Postby TampaFl » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:21 pm

Check this link out. Shows the Atlantic with sip & buoy reports.



http://www.oceanweather.com/data/NATL-Southern/marine.html


Hope this helps in giving an over all picture of things. :D


Robert 8-)
0 likes   

Air Force Met
Military Met
Military Met
Posts: 4372
Age: 56
Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2003 9:30 am
Location: Roan Mountain, TN

#28 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:32 pm

AJC3 wrote:
Air Force Met wrote:
wxman57 wrote: Matt, I still don't see any ship reports on those satelltie images. I'm plotting all ships in GARP and have nothing there. Can you post an image or the link that shows a ship report? The web site doesn't seem to mention ship reports on the satellite images. I saw the ship report yesterday at 29W, but that was well east of the disturbance.


Here is the report of the NW wind...

28/08 13009 7.9 -38.0 27.5 8.3 330 11 ID= 13009

Not sure if it is a drifting buoy or what.


Yup...that ID is a drifting buoy.


That's what I thought...but wasn't certain. Be nice if they stuck some pressure on those things.
0 likes   

User avatar
SouthFloridawx
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 8346
Age: 46
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:16 am
Location: Sarasota, FL
Contact:

#29 Postby SouthFloridawx » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:35 pm

Looking at the Visible shot for a moment it would appear that it is starting to look a little better organized this afternoon. Mind you I don't have any good acess right now to loops and stuff so it's just a shot in the dark.

Image
0 likes   

Air Force Met
Military Met
Military Met
Posts: 4372
Age: 56
Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2003 9:30 am
Location: Roan Mountain, TN

#30 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:35 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:so what does that mean...the wind is a confusion error?


No...it's just a buoy that floats around and gets data on sea temp, ocean currents and winds.
0 likes   

ThunderMate
Tropical Storm
Tropical Storm
Posts: 215
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:18 am
Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia
Contact:

#31 Postby ThunderMate » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:38 pm

Southflorida, i was just about to post that myself...and also it looks like it is definately heading more WNW than west if you look at the overal lowtomid level circulation.
0 likes   

User avatar
Thunder44
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 5922
Age: 44
Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2003 7:53 pm
Location: New York City

#32 Postby Thunder44 » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:48 pm

18z analysis shows shear has increased to 30kts ahead of the wave:

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... g8shr.html
0 likes   

HurricaneHunter914
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4439
Age: 31
Joined: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:36 pm
Location: College Station, TX

#33 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:50 pm

20kts prohibits development, but 30kts might rip this apart.
0 likes   
Personal Forecast Disclaimer:
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

User avatar
cheezyWXguy
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 6108
Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:29 am
Location: Dallas, TX

#34 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:52 pm

if it develops/has an anticyclone over it then it can pass the shear without significant weakening
0 likes   

User avatar
x-y-no
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 8359
Age: 65
Joined: Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:14 pm
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL

#35 Postby x-y-no » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:54 pm

Thunder44 wrote:18z analysis shows shear has increased to 30kts ahead of the wave:

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... g8shr.html


This is a bit deceptive because part of that is contributed by outflow from the disturbance itself.
0 likes   

conestogo_flood
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1268
Joined: Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:49 pm

#36 Postby conestogo_flood » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:54 pm

Where is this wave? No one says anything, just Atlantic at 12 N and 50 W. I don't know what that is, how many miles from anything would be better.
0 likes   

HurricaneHunter914
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4439
Age: 31
Joined: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:36 pm
Location: College Station, TX

#37 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:54 pm

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... 0split.jpg

It appears SAL is trying to build up in front of 99L, but 99L is moving so fast the SAL shouldn't take so much of a toll.
0 likes   
Personal Forecast Disclaimer:
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

User avatar
Thunder44
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 5922
Age: 44
Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2003 7:53 pm
Location: New York City

#38 Postby Thunder44 » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:55 pm

x-y-no wrote:
Thunder44 wrote:18z analysis shows shear has increased to 30kts ahead of the wave:

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... g8shr.html


This is a bit deceptive because part of that is contributed by outflow from the disturbance itself.


Or is the shear contributing to the outflow channel?
0 likes   

JonathanBelles
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 11430
Age: 35
Joined: Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:00 pm
Location: School: Florida State University (Tallahassee, FL) Home: St. Petersburg, Florida
Contact:

#39 Postby JonathanBelles » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:55 pm

could 99L slow?
0 likes   

HurricaneHunter914
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4439
Age: 31
Joined: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:36 pm
Location: College Station, TX

#40 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:56 pm

Whats going to slow it down?
0 likes   
Personal Forecast Disclaimer:
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.


Return to “Talkin' Tropics”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Stormybajan and 44 guests