The Wave SW of Cape Verde Islands
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The Wave SW of Cape Verde Islands
Watch it for development. This is likely to be our next Invest.
Not only is climatology getting better, but the general pattern is becoming more favorable. The Bermuda High stuck over Newfoundland has migrated east, and thus, wind shear over the MDR has decreased. The strong TUTT over the western Atlantic is forecasted to be ripped apart, lowering the shear even further. The heart of the favorable MJO is approaching the Atlantic as well. As JB and others have predicted, an upswing an activity is expected as August begins. The GFS and NOGAPS forecast development from this system. In addition, the ridge is expected to build back preventing recurvature. Caveat is this is expected to be a large system, so development is likely to be slow. Nevertheless, I do believe development will occur. The wave has shown resilience since moving off Africa and is surrounded by a moist envelope.
Not only is climatology getting better, but the general pattern is becoming more favorable. The Bermuda High stuck over Newfoundland has migrated east, and thus, wind shear over the MDR has decreased. The strong TUTT over the western Atlantic is forecasted to be ripped apart, lowering the shear even further. The heart of the favorable MJO is approaching the Atlantic as well. As JB and others have predicted, an upswing an activity is expected as August begins. The GFS and NOGAPS forecast development from this system. In addition, the ridge is expected to build back preventing recurvature. Caveat is this is expected to be a large system, so development is likely to be slow. Nevertheless, I do believe development will occur. The wave has shown resilience since moving off Africa and is surrounded by a moist envelope.
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Um hate to be rude but, isn't there already a thread for this titled 'Another Player over Africa'.
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No, the UKMET still does not develop it, so the consensus here is not as strong as it was for Alberto. In fact, the reason I'm calling for development this early is not really based on the models, its based on the more favorable environment of the Tropical Atlantic. The wave is already one step ahead of many other waves as it is very organized already. Now we just need to tighten this system up and I'm banking on at least an Invest.
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wxmann_91 wrote:No, the UKMET still does not develop it, so the consensus here is not as strong as it was for Alberto. In fact, the reason I'm calling for development this early is not really based on the models, its based on the more favorable environment of the Tropical Atlantic. The wave is already one step ahead of many other waves as it is very organized already. Now we just need to tighten this system up and I'm banking on at least an Invest.
UKMET does seem to show something forming there:
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cyclonephase/ukm/fcst/index.html
Low in question:
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cyclonephase/ukm ... 2/103.html
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wxmann_91 wrote:No, the UKMET still does not develop it, so the consensus here is not as strong as it was for Alberto. In fact, the reason I'm calling for development this early is not really based on the models, its based on the more favorable environment of the Tropical Atlantic. The wave is already one step ahead of many other waves as it is very organized already. Now we just need to tighten this system up and I'm banking on at least an Invest.
When was the consensus strong from Alberto.. CMC and NAM were the only models showing development in the gulf?
All the global model except for UKMET show development... to me that is a consensus. Is it necessarily this wave maybe not but, I think this is at least a pattern shift that says there are going to be more cape verde storms this year.

This wave certainly is impressive though. I have been watching the models for a few days. They take the Azores high and move it north or northeastward.
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I think you might be right on this one though wxman91..
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... split.html
SAL has decreased a lot since the last wave was in the same position. This is probably the one that is going to be the first long tracker.
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... split.html
SAL has decreased a lot since the last wave was in the same position. This is probably the one that is going to be the first long tracker.
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Hybridstorm_November2001 wrote:wxmann_91 wrote:No, the UKMET still does not develop it, so the consensus here is not as strong as it was for Alberto. In fact, the reason I'm calling for development this early is not really based on the models, its based on the more favorable environment of the Tropical Atlantic. The wave is already one step ahead of many other waves as it is very organized already. Now we just need to tighten this system up and I'm banking on at least an Invest.
UKMET does seem to show something forming there:
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cyclonephase/ukm/fcst/index.html
Low in question:
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cyclonephase/ukm ... 2/103.html
My mistake.
For Alberto, if my memory serves me well, after the CMC and NAM saw it, most other models saw it too.
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wxmann_91 wrote:Hybridstorm_November2001 wrote:wxmann_91 wrote:No, the UKMET still does not develop it, so the consensus here is not as strong as it was for Alberto. In fact, the reason I'm calling for development this early is not really based on the models, its based on the more favorable environment of the Tropical Atlantic. The wave is already one step ahead of many other waves as it is very organized already. Now we just need to tighten this system up and I'm banking on at least an Invest.
UKMET does seem to show something forming there:
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cyclonephase/ukm/fcst/index.html
Low in question:
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cyclonephase/ukm ... 2/103.html
My mistake.
For Alberto, if my memory serves me well, after the CMC and NAM saw it, most other models saw it too.
Those models saw it after they had the data entered into the run. CMC and NAM were the only two models overall to show development in the near term. In some cases CMC was showing development 5 days prior.
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ncdowneast wrote:looks like it came off bout the same place as 99 and we all see how well its doing...Not saying this one will or will not develop but each wave is different and yet every wave theres people always saying this ones going to make it...its got a long ways to go so lets all sit back and watch.
Thing is, models develop this one. 99 had no model support.
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It had a bit early on (two of 'em picked it up for a run), but nothing like this one has, at least thus far.
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