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#4501 Postby jasons2k » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:12 pm

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Stormavoider wrote:You can really see a difference between the shear on the east and west sides of this thing.


...Which means there is a lot of divergence over the area.

Also...if you look at a WV loop...tgere is a lot of upper level moisture headed for Chris. This may be another reason for the increase in convection.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-wv.html


yeah, if you can FIND him!! J/K :wink:
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#4502 Postby Typhoon » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:13 pm

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#4503 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:13 pm

we need convection and covergence to focus right over the LLC, not to its south, or else this will be an open wave and soon. It is quite close to opening up
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#4504 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:13 pm

Stormavoider wrote:AFM,
Do you think Chris has separated enough from Hispaniola to lessen the effect caused by the mountains?


It's still being hindered some. There is a batch of moisture in the upper levels headed towards the system.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-wv.html
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#4505 Postby JonathanBelles » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:14 pm

map?
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#4506 Postby Frank2 » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:15 pm

I know some here don't agree, but, the issue seems to be that the ULL to it's east is now starting to overtake Chris:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html
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#4507 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:15 pm

map?


Fact,WindRunner and StormsAhead who post those google maps are not here right now.
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#4508 Postby AnnularCane » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:16 pm

storms in NC wrote:Okay who gave it the shock treatment?



Well, uhhh...uhhh... :oops:

I couldn't help it! He looked so pitiful.
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#4509 Postby tgenius » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:17 pm

Frank2 wrote:I know some here don't agree, but, the issue seems to be that the ULL to it's east is now starting to overtake Chris:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html


What would that imply Frank?
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#4510 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:19 pm

first thing recon needs to make sure of it that Chris has not yet opened up, as it is very close to doing so
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#4511 Postby KWT » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:19 pm

I noticed that as well Frank, the shear has changed direction it seems over the last few hours and indeed the ULL is overtaking Chris, unless it picks up some speed shortly. mind you it does look like Chris has sped up a touch as well tohugh that may just be the elongating LLC thats giving this idea.
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#4512 Postby Stormavoider » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:20 pm

The ULL over central Florida does not seem to be moving west as much as forecast. It also seems to be broadening. If it stalls and builds there how might Chris' track be influenced?
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#4513 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:20 pm

I got home about 10minutes ago and left before the stoem even started w/ convection on anything but the outer band on the east. what a change an hour makes! It looks like the convection is trying to swallow/ wrap around the LLC but the question is: will it last longer than last nights blow up?
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#4514 Postby brunota2003 » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:21 pm

cycloneye wrote:
map?


Fact,WindRunner and StormsAhead who post those google maps are not here right now.
I ate the map :D j/k I think they will find a very weak LLC and maybe winds at the surface of 37ish
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#4515 Postby sealbach » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:23 pm

i don't think it can outrun the shear
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#4516 Postby Typhoon » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:23 pm

fact789 wrote:map?


I know how to make a Google map, but I don't know how to make it into an image file to post here. Sorry. I'll let you know what's going on.
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#4517 Postby Typhoon » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:24 pm

The plane is now descending. It had been flying at about 18,000 feet.

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#4518 Postby beachbum_al » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:24 pm

So will Chris die before I get back from shopping or will I be up all night tracking?
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#4519 Postby Typhoon » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:27 pm

The plane is now descending. It appears that the first pass will be from the NE to the SW.
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#4520 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:27 pm

That's not the upper low catching up with Chris, it's the axis of contraction moving towards Chris in front of the ULL. That is better for Chris. Lots of moisture and the air will be divergent...but even that is not ideal. Anytime your existence is based on staying within a COL...you got problems.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/sloop-wv.html

Check out the upper level forecasts. The Ridge north of the COL is forecast to build southwards starting tomorrow.

Hint: When looking at upper level lows, look at water vapor.




Edited for "contraction"...senior moment.
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