Alaska oil field shut down
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Gas is up 12 CENTS over NIGHT here in Northern Az.......bassturds
What I don't understand, we in the White Mountains get our gas from Northern New Mexico Refineries which receives the crude from Texas and the Gulf Coast.......probably like the postal service, they ship it to Alaska first via a slow boat from China then back to NM for refining 


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stormtruth wrote:Why did they let the pipes corrode?
Corrosion happens. If they do regular preventative maintenance, that means taking the pipeline offline frequently. It probably affects their operations more than just monitoring the situation and doing an extended shutdown far less frequently. Keep in mind it takes 4 days just to drain the pipeline to work on it and another 4 days to reload it.
This is a big chunk of BP's petroleum production. I doubt they relish the idea of shutting down their Alaska fields while oil is near an all-time high.
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Lindaloo wrote:Aw come on gtalum. I would rather them do regular maintenance then have to take it offline for a long period of time. This IS one of their major lines too, go figure! Your excuses are wearing thin because they are not making any sense.
They're not excuses. It's fact. Taking the pipeline offline is itself a lengthy process. It makes sense to do it as rarely as possible. It's not a big conspiracy. It makes no sense to take production offline when the price is near its peak unless absolutely necessary.
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azsnowman wrote:Gas is up 12 CENTS over NIGHT here in Northern Az.......bassturdsWhat I don't understand, we in the White Mountains get our gas from Northern New Mexico Refineries which receives the crude from Texas and the Gulf Coast.......probably like the postal service, they ship it to Alaska first via a slow boat from China then back to NM for refining


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gtalum wrote:Lindaloo wrote:Aw come on gtalum. I would rather them do regular maintenance then have to take it offline for a long period of time. This IS one of their major lines too, go figure! Your excuses are wearing thin because they are not making any sense.
They're not excuses. It's fact. Taking the pipeline offline is itself a lengthy process. It makes sense to do it as rarely as possible. It's not a big conspiracy. It makes no sense to take production offline when the price is near its peak unless absolutely necessary.
They should have a BACKUP PLAN, pipeline, etc. for situations like this Then they'd be able to take it offline and use another pipeline for backup. Did they think that they were going to last forever??? It's wishful thinking and once again the whole "I'm going to let the next person in charge worry about it" attitude that is so prevalent these days. As long as they make their money and come out unscathed then that's good enough for them.

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You dang right it is causing panic. Actually, it is down right ridiculous.
Steph, their back up was leaking oil that amounted to about 7 barrels. THAT is why they did the diagnostics on the main pipeline. Heck, it saddens me to know that the experts do not even know how long it will take to bring it offline. Isn't that what they do? That right there proves they have no clue about preventative maintenance. All they have are excuses like someone else I know.
Well, we do use gas and fuel gtalum. 3% is 3%. The oil companies will raise prices because of how the stock market reacts to this pipeline being offline. You need to check that out and give us an excuse for that too because the prices at the pumps have already started creeping this morning.
By your posts you are coming across like you have some kind of inside information. Please enlighten us.
Steph, their back up was leaking oil that amounted to about 7 barrels. THAT is why they did the diagnostics on the main pipeline. Heck, it saddens me to know that the experts do not even know how long it will take to bring it offline. Isn't that what they do? That right there proves they have no clue about preventative maintenance. All they have are excuses like someone else I know.
Well, we do use gas and fuel gtalum. 3% is 3%. The oil companies will raise prices because of how the stock market reacts to this pipeline being offline. You need to check that out and give us an excuse for that too because the prices at the pumps have already started creeping this morning.
By your posts you are coming across like you have some kind of inside information. Please enlighten us.
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Lindaloo wrote:You need to check that out and give us an excuse for that too because the prices at the pumps have already started creeping this morning.
Pump prices have been creeping here for two years or mor.e Can you please demarcate for me exactly where the previous creeping ended and the creeping over the pipeline situation started?
By your posts you are coming across like you have some kind of inside information.
It's called "microeconomics". Definitely worth learning.
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That is just a cover up and is no real explanation. Actually, the prices of gas have been staying where they are. No rise and no decrease. I watch diesel fuel prices on a daily basis because of the work I am in and would know if it was rising. Just this morning, diesel fuel went up because two of the trucks fueled up last night and another truck fueled up this morning at a different price. Explain that.
Your using big words in no way intimidates me either.
Answer my question about the stock market. If you have no inside info then please stop trying to convince us that what you are telling US is FACT.
Your using big words in no way intimidates me either.

Answer my question about the stock market. If you have no inside info then please stop trying to convince us that what you are telling US is FACT.
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gtalum wrote:Stephanie wrote:They should have a BACKUP PLAN, pipeline, etc. for situations like this Then they'd be able to take it offline and use another pipeline for backup.
Yes, I'm sure it's extremely easy to get the necessary permits to build backup oil pipelines throughout the Alaskan wilderness.
Don't give me that eye roll...I would think that in the area that they are currently drilling they could do that, like one parallel to the other.
In other parts of the state that would be a different story of course.
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gtalum wrote:What's really "wishful thinking" a nation using so much oil that losing <3% of its available supply would cause a panic.
Wasn't the oil provided by the fields in the Gulf Coast providing about 8% of the oil to the country? Suddenly there's a couple of hurricanes and we have a panic on our hands of about $1.00....
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