Israel vs Hezbollah Thread #3

[Audrey2Katrina]

Fair enough, I was directly addressed, and then responding to a question and it had taken us a bit off track.

Latest report now has it that Hezbollah will NOT accept an "International" peace force, but prefers "Unifil" (whatever that is?) or "Lebanese" army only.

Personally that sounds like letting the fox watch the henhouse and Israel has little to no chance of accepting such terms... nor should they.

A2K

[Derek Ortt]

and Israel seems to have had enough is is going to go after the civilian population of Lebanon now.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/ ... index.html

any Lebanese who drives south of the Latani, dies

Also, rumors of an attack coming on Tyre itself

[x-y-no]

Do you have evidence that there's a policy at Reuters not to call al Qaeda a terrorist organization?

Actually, this made news quite some time ago, Reuters' "official" policy includes NOT using the dreaded "T" word for any specific person or organization...

Well, that's odd, because as I said, I went to the Reuters site and searched today's stories, and I found four stories where they labelled organizations as "terrorist".

I note that Stomtruth has cited an article hither and/or yon which might belie the claim; however this proves nothing as by their own admission, papers can change and copy certain words within the article--but they do NOT approve such changes; a cursory review of Reuters own admissions will show that their policy is adamantly that of NOT calling terrorists..."terrorists"...

But apparently this is not true, since as I said, I went to the Reuters site, not to any newspaper site.

http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/Reuters_Admits_Appeasing_Terrorists.asp

The website is Honest Reporting, and has several links for further investigation. Again, IN the article you will see how individual agencies like CanWest took a Reuters report and USED the word "Terrorist" (sort of like the isolated story Stormtruth provided)... and they got the following response from Reuters, as per the article:

Reuters didn't like the adjustment, and took the unusual step of officially informing CanWest that if it intended to continue this practice, CanWest should remove Reuters' name from the byline. Why? The New York Times reported:

"Our editorial policy is that we don't use emotive words when labeling someone," said David A. Schlesinger, Reuters' global managing editor. "Any paper can change copy and do whatever they want. But if a paper wants to change our copy that way, we would be more comfortable if they remove the byline."

Bottom line: Isolated examples aside--it has been widely reported and acknowledged by Reuters' itself, through anything but "extremist" agencies.. such as the NYT, that they do NOT us the word "terrorists" in describing "terrorist"-- as POLICY... this does not preclude editing further down the pike--albeit when caught, as CanWest was--Reuters does let them know. They consider calling a terrorist what they are, employing "emotive" words---??? Excuse me, but that is subject to very vague, subjective, and arbitrary interpretation in the extreme. Again.. permitting potential "bias" in and of itself to enter the article. I'm sorry, but when you can't call a terrorist a terrorist because you're so PC braindead that you wring your hands over the use of "emotive" words-- well I stand by my statement--trust suffers. All that said, I reiterate that I do read Reuters' articles, and unless/until I can see clear and extreme bias, will continue to--it's just that their own stated policy about using this one word, makes me very hesitant to trust stories that might well contain a strong bias--like I said, a gleaning eye is required--but your point is well taken also--in today's media that gleaning eye is required with virtually anything and everything you see/read.

A2K

And yet, there on their own site, this very day, they are calling organizations "terrorist". Hmmm ... whom to believe ... "honestreporting.com" or my own lying eyes ...


EDIT: I see we've been warned off this diversion. A2K ... just go to http://today.reuters.com and type "terrorist" in the search box and you'll see that your claim is false.

That's it - I'm dropping the side topic.

[vbhoutex]

If this thread does not go back on topic immediately, it will be locked and removed. I hope I am making myself clear. Take the reuters stuff private!!

[stormtruth]

Forest Fires and back on track with Israel-Lebanon War -> Israel has fought over 500 fires so far caused by the thousands of rockets. Many of the rockets land in wooded areas and burn forests in Israel. Israel says forests have been set back over 50 years by the fires.

[M_0331]

Go to http://www.about.com It has blogs that are from both sides at the bottom of the page; look for First-Hand Accounts.

Eddie

[Lindaloo]

stormtruth... it clearly states no political discussions. You have crossed that line on two and possibly more occasions. Please follow the rules.

[Brent]

JERUSALEM - Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert decided Friday to launch an expanded ground offensive in southern Lebanon, after expressing dissatisfaction over an emerging cease-fire deal, government officials said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14258758/

[Derek Ortt]

Israel is very angry at the changes to the UN resolution and appears that it will ignore what happens today

[Jack8631]

Good news maybe?

Israel to consider calling off latest ground offensive

This conflict changes more frequently than the weather.

[Derek Ortt]

will Hezbollah actually go along with the proposal which does not call for an immediate Israeli withdrawl and an expanded international force?

[Jack8631]

will Hezbollah actually go along with the proposal which does not call for an immediate Israeli withdrawl and an expanded international force?

Perhaps not. But considering the circumstances..Hezbollah might find this an opportunity to back out while they still can.

[Brent]

BREAKING NEWS
Updated: 3 minutes ago

JERUSALEM - Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has accepted an emerging Mideast cease-fire deal and informed the United States of his decision, Israeli officials said Friday.

Olmert will recommend that his government approve the deal in its upcoming meeting on Sunday, said Gideon Meir, a senior official in the Israeli Foreign Ministry.

[Jack8631]

Breaking news: Apparently Olmert has accepted the latest UN resolution.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14258758/?GT1=8404

[f5]

the UN is an anti semite institution.they are going to side with the terrorist .they should just pass a resolution calling for Israel's destruction.that would make that nutcake's(MR.NUKE) day over in IRAN

[Yarrah]

the UN is an anti semite institution.they are going to side with the terrorist .they should just pass a resolution calling for Israel's destruction.that would make that nutcake's(MR.NUKE) day over in IRAN

Not everything which critizes Israel or isn't in Israel best interests is anti semitic. The UN is just trying to do it's best to stop the bloodshed in that region.

[Cookiely]

If Hezbollah fires a rocket after the UN and Lebanon Army are in position what are they going to do? Without chapter 7 mandate their hands are tied. If they keep them across the Latani River will this in itself solve the problem? Just heard that Iran has resupplied Hezbollah with more rockets (US intelligence). I thought Israel had cut off all major roads and bridges. Could these be more sophisticated and accurate rockets? Doesn't sound like they are ready to give up? Will they be stupid enough to sucker punch Israel after the UN and Lebanese Army are in position?

[Stephanie]

the UN is an anti semite institution.they are going to side with the terrorist .they should just pass a resolution calling for Israel's destruction.that would make that nutcake's(MR.NUKE) day over in IRAN

Source????

[Yarrah]

Latest news:

* Hezbollah accepts the UN-resolution but will continue to fight as long as Israel still has soldiers in Lebanon

* Isreal plan on stopping its attacks on Lebanon on monday 07:00 (local time) but will continue to fight Hezbollah in the area Isreal now occupies

* The UN-expects that an international peace-keeping force can be active in the region next week. Some countries have already promised to send soldiers (does anyone know which countries?)

Source: NOS

[kevin]

I would expect that the French will send a large contingent of well trained soldiers.