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#1 Postby marcane_1973 » Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:29 pm

I am a big fan of Hurricanetrack.com and I noticed the other day Mark was saying until the western Pacific calms down we will not see any big developments in the Eastern Atlantic. My question is how do these pulses of energy in the Pacific affect the forming of storms in the Atlantic???
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#2 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:30 pm

I think it cuts the energy the tropical waves get...Which when the western Pacific is active=little energy for the waves coming off africa.
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#3 Postby wxmann_91 » Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:01 pm

Hmmm... I'm not sure. Wet MJO is over WPAC right now so I guess he means that when this moves out and enters the Atlantic, it will heat up? Matt is right too in that energy has to be conserved.
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#4 Postby NCWeatherChic » Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:05 pm

Good question! :D
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#5 Postby marcane_1973 » Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:48 pm

Thanks guys. I appreciate all your comments :D
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#6 Postby Rainband » Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:54 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:I think it cuts the energy the tropical waves get...Which when the western Pacific is active=little energy for the waves coming off africa.
I posted something along those lines a fews months back from a local met and everyone said...it was wrong, guess not :wink:
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#7 Postby SouthFloridawx » Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:03 am

Rainband wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:I think it cuts the energy the tropical waves get...Which when the western Pacific is active=little energy for the waves coming off africa.
I posted something along those lines a fews months back from a local met and everyone said...it was wrong, guess not :wink:


I was reading in the MJO update not about this particular topic but, how the moist air is currently in the WPAC and then moves to the East and lastly into the Atlantic. So maybe there is some kind of correlation here between MJO and the Basins.
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#8 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:07 am

When that upward pulse reaches the Atlantic though...watch out!

P.S. It is forecast to be here by the end of August.
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#9 Postby vacanechaser » Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:10 am

the point mark is making is that while we have all this happening in the pacific, the energy, waves and what not are developing there and not making through to africa... if the energy is being spent elswhere, then not much for the atlantic.... we can still see something of course, but you are cutting the chances of an large waves and ebergy making their way across into africa and into the atlantic...


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#10 Postby Wthrman13 » Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:40 pm

Rainband wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:I think it cuts the energy the tropical waves get...Which when the western Pacific is active=little energy for the waves coming off africa.
I posted something along those lines a fews months back from a local met and everyone said...it was wrong, guess not :wink:


There may or may not be a link between enhanced activity in the western Pacific and decreased activity in the Atlantic, but even if there is, I doubt that the answer is as simple as the energy of tropical waves getting "cut off". The earth's weather is not a closed system, and so there is no constraint on conserving energy of the whole system. While ultimately the energy that drives our weather patterns comes from the sun, the output of which is relatively constant over time (but even this changes with sunspot cycles, etc.), how that energy is partitioned over the earth system is incredibly complex. It's not as easy to say that if activity is enhanced in one region, it's automatically suppressed in another. Lots of factors could come into play, and hypothetically a scenario could be envisioned where tropical cyclone activity increases worldwide (maybe due to globally warming oceans), but some other aspect of the climate system is changed, such as reduced precipitation in midlatitudes, or some other effect (I'm just using this as an example of a thought experiment, not saying that such is likely to happen or even makes sense physically).

I'm not a climate system expert by any stretch, so perhaps someone has knowledge of studies correlating tropical activity between different basins that can shed light on this.
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