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#301 Postby 'CaneFreak » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:47 am

Whether you believe it or not, there is no circulation as of the 12:42 update from Quikscat....see for your self.....no circulation....a definite v-shape...but no clear LLC...

http://manati.orbit.nesdis.noaa.gov/dat ... MBds32.png
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#302 Postby willjnewton » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:50 am

why No circulation becuase this wave looks better organized to me on the infrared imagery thats been updated supposingly :(
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#303 Postby 'CaneFreak » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:51 am

supposedly, but no LLC....same problem we've had all year....nice waves...but no LLC
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#304 Postby wxmann_91 » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:52 am

The circulation's probably been ripped apart by the SAL. If there is any northward component to this system, it will not develop. The GFS, IMO, is way off, as it develops a spurious upper low to the northwest, thus carving just enough of a weakness to make 96L go northwest and recurve.
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#305 Postby 'CaneFreak » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:55 am

yeah...it will probably stay on a west to wnw course and cause a world of trouble down the road if it all plays out as I am seeing....why?...Central Atlantic Ridge would cause system to steadily strengthen in a favorable upper level environment...SAL will likely diminish..but not dissipate....diminish just enough for this wave to eventually develop down the road...
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#306 Postby ConvergenceZone » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:56 am

wxmann_91 wrote:The circulation's probably been ripped apart by the SAL. If there is any northward component to this system, it will not develop. The GFS, IMO, is way off, as it develops a spurious upper low to the northwest, thus carving just enough of a weakness to make 96L go northwest and recurve.



SAL has been with us all year. I suppose it will be with us the rest of the season too, as there is no evidence of the contrary.... :cry:

I think this exact reason is why folks are giving up on the season....
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#307 Postby MWatkins » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:57 am

'CaneFreak wrote:Whether you believe it or not, there is no circulation as of the 12:42 update from Quikscat....see for your self.....no circulation....a definite v-shape...but no clear LLC...

http://manati.orbit.nesdis.noaa.gov/dat ... MBds32.png


This happens with QSCAT imagery sometimes...they don't do a very good job at telling users which time is valid.

The time at the top is the time of the latest update for all imagery (I think). The time of the actual image displayed is 19:30Z (in the little numbers in purple way at the bottom)...so the image looks like it's 1632Z but it's actually yesterday before the wave emerged.

I have made the same mistake before...

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#308 Postby 'CaneFreak » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:59 am

Thanks MW...geez...had NO idea....
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#309 Postby AJC3 » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:59 am

Deleted. Slow, fat fingered typists always get beat to the punch.
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#310 Postby WmE » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:00 pm

Yeah, thanks MW! :)
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#311 Postby wxmann_91 » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:02 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:
wxmann_91 wrote:The circulation's probably been ripped apart by the SAL. If there is any northward component to this system, it will not develop. The GFS, IMO, is way off, as it develops a spurious upper low to the northwest, thus carving just enough of a weakness to make 96L go northwest and recurve.



SAL has been with us all year. I suppose it will be with us the rest of the season too, as there is no evidence of the contrary.... :cry:

I think this exact reason is why folks are giving up on the season....

OK, so that was an old QS pass. SAL is perfectly normal this time of year... and the fact that this wave has propogated so quickly off to the west is indicative of future outbreaks being less potent and long-lasting.
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#312 Postby Thunder44 » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:03 pm

'CaneFreak wrote:supposedly, but no LLC....same problem we've had all year....nice waves...but no LLC


No, we've had plenty of LLC's but with little or no convection over them to develop.
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#313 Postby 'CaneFreak » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:07 pm

Thunder44 wrote:
'CaneFreak wrote:supposedly, but no LLC....same problem we've had all year....nice waves...but no LLC


No, we've had plenty of LLC's but with little or no convection over them to develop.


Any examples?
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#314 Postby storms in NC » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:08 pm

It is getting that S shap to it. But I could be wrong
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#315 Postby Thunder44 » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:08 pm

'CaneFreak wrote:
Thunder44 wrote:
'CaneFreak wrote:supposedly, but no LLC....same problem we've had all year....nice waves...but no LLC


No, we've had plenty of LLC's but with little or no convection over them to develop.


Any examples?


93L

What I meant to really say that we really have a problem more with convection developing than LLC forming.
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#316 Postby hiflyer » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:09 pm

aaarrrgghhh the weather baby on CNN Headline pointed at it and used that dreaded word "SPIN"

sure sign it will die

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#317 Postby 'CaneFreak » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:11 pm

Thunder44 wrote:
'CaneFreak wrote:
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'CaneFreak wrote:supposedly, but no LLC....same problem we've had all year....nice waves...but no LLC


No, we've had plenty of LLC's but with little or no convection over them to develop.


Any examples?


93L


plenty of convection....too much shear....had nothing to do with convection....
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#318 Postby Thunder44 » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:13 pm

'CaneFreak wrote:
Thunder44 wrote:
'CaneFreak wrote:
Thunder44 wrote:
'CaneFreak wrote:supposedly, but no LLC....same problem we've had all year....nice waves...but no LLC


No, we've had plenty of LLC's but with little or no convection over them to develop.


Any examples?


93L


plenty of convection....too much shear....had nothing to do with convection....


If you follow these invests throughout the entire time, alot of them have problem sustaining their convection. Even the ones that did developed lost their convection due either shear or dry air.
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#319 Postby vacanechaser » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:14 pm

AJC3 wrote:Deleted. Slow, fat fingered typists always get beat to the punch.



lol... you have the problem too????


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#320 Postby SouthFloridawx » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:18 pm

Edit ... revised below.
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