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#201 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:24 pm

The wave grows even sharper almost there!!! Down to 1/2 a degrees or less.
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#202 Postby rnbaida » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:24 pm

the GFDL brings this system to 110mph at 120 hours.... We may have a major system on our hands.
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#203 Postby Vortex » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:25 pm

97L is becoming much better organized this evening!
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#204 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:25 pm

rnbaida wrote:the GFDL brings this system to 110mph at 120 hours.... We may have a major system on our hands.


Do you have a link to see that run?
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#205 Postby ROCK » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:25 pm

Air Force Met wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:
and north=florida


Well the GFDL has shifted well to the south...

Still a ridge to contend with...so where it is going to be?



Florida...... :lol: These types of storms plow right through ridges...you know that.... :lol:
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#206 Postby rnbaida » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:26 pm

cycloneye wrote:
rnbaida wrote:the GFDL brings this system to 110mph at 120 hours.... We may have a major system on our hands.


Do you have a link to see that run?

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#207 Postby johngaltfla » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:26 pm

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Windtalker1 wrote: Funny how "nobody" caught on to that big trof in the gulf to prepare the people better in Charlies path. Everyone was saying TAMPA


?????

:?:

The trof is what turned Charlie. If you look at landfall and forecasted track in terms of ACTUAL error...it was less than 40 nm! The error comes in he fact that the coast of Florida is shaped in one way...and the storm was moving another...so the slighted error in heading leads to a huge landfalling error....plus there were other factors invovled that caused Charlie to go in a little earlier.

Your talking like the landfall forecast 24 hours out was Alabama...and that is not the case. Again...the actual track error was small...it was the angle that worked against the people in the path of Charlie...not the forecast.


To return to the original subject, first I have to say is this; it was a small storm. The size of Charlie had a lot to do with the degree of error. Up to one hour before landfall, all of us in the Venice-Sarasota area thought we were toast.

I have nothing but applause for the mets that day. They did the best they can with a strong Cat 4 which behaved like a wild afternoon thunderstorm directionally speaking. When that low front dropped I prayed like hell it would steer it away from us but alot of my friends unfortunately paid the price.

This storm is nothing like Charlie. It isn't even a storm yet. Give it 24 hours. Give the mets and models 48 to get a good picture of the upcoming climatology next week.

Then get excited or calm down. It's way too early in the ball game to proclaim Ernesto another Charlie, please.

Just give the pros some time to digest data. That's all I ask.
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#208 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:26 pm

Depression at 11pm?
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#209 Postby rolltide » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:27 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:A VERY precarious location for a storm this time of the year in relation to the gulf. We all need to keep an eye on this one (Ernesto).


You got that right. And from what the models are showing it looks like we may be looking at something headed towards the central GOM next week.
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#210 Postby Praxus » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:27 pm

Those plots don't look too good for Jamaica. If I lived there I'd be going over my hurricane plan right now and hoping this thing doesn't make it past a depression.
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#211 Postby Frank P » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:27 pm

Reminds me somewhat of an Ivan track if you average them out... hard to tell where its going to go but sure looks to have that GOM on its target....

NGOM is NOT ready for another storm of ANY kind... wish people would stop the hype saying this is going to the the BIG ONE... seems like so often this premature speculation is made without amy scientific basis, other than feeling... once a storm becomes a major then u can hype all you want, because at that time people in harms way need to be scared enough to take all precautions necessary to ensure their familys safety, but until that happens, a lot of us still are stiff sufferening damaged psyches from Katrina.... fortunately those people who do such hyping are only taking a WAG... and its not even a SWAG either.....

won't see the pros and moderators making such statements without scientific basis.... they are the voice of sanity on the forum.... thanks guys, you know who you are...
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#212 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:28 pm

Praxus wrote:Those plots don't look too good for Jamaica. If I lived there I'd be going over my hurricane plan right now and hoping this thing doesn't make it past a depression.


My prediction at this point: near-direct hit for them...
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#213 Postby Evil Jeremy » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:28 pm

i think so
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#214 Postby Sanibel » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:30 pm

Obvious tightening of structure. Anything possible in 2006. It could poof.

Doubt it though. This is very similar to Charley's origin.

To me, 2006 is just waiting for something with spin to hit the Caribbean to tap it.
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#215 Postby Air Force Met » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:30 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:Depression at 11pm?


No.
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#216 Postby tropicsPR » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:33 pm

Air Force Met wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:Depression at 11pm?


No.


Why not, Air Force Met? Please, explain... :?:
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#217 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:34 pm

Tropical Cyclone Formation Alert

A tropical cyclone formation alert has been issued.
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#218 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:35 pm

tropicsPR wrote:
Air Force Met wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:Depression at 11pm?


No.


Why not, Air Force Met? Please, explain... :?:


because there is no evidence of a closed circulation, case closed.
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#219 Postby Nimbus » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:36 pm

Forward motion of 17 knots isn't too too fast wonder what the island obs will look like?
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#220 Postby skysummit » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:36 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
tropicsPR wrote:
Air Force Met wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:Depression at 11pm?


No.


Why not, Air Force Met? Please, explain... :?:


because there is no evidence of a closed circulation, case closed.


Nah....case is still wide open. Maybe not for 11pm, but in the next 24 hours.
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