Anyone notice that 2006 Hurricane season is......

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#21 Postby Frank P » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:40 pm

Cyclenall wrote:
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quandary wrote:Actually, June, July and early August rarely see major canes. Last few years has been the exception not the rule.


Camille August 1969..... Major Cat 5 Storm....



August 15 Camille became a hurricane and a major on the 16th,.... all depends on how you define early.... technically you are right because the 15th is mid august and not early august... but still pretty close, and one of the greatest storms on record....
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Re: Anyone notice that 2006 Hurricane season is......

#22 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:21 pm

marcane_1973 wrote:Just way too much going on out there. A great example is this satellite photo in the GOM. http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/avn-l.jpg Conditions are so hostile in that region that the Gulf would be lucky to support a TS at this point. What is the dealio with all these upper level lows in the Atlantic so far this season??? Sorry but I still do not see areas in the Atlantic to support a major cane which should be in place RIGHT NOW. It is almost September for :cry: out loud. The Bermuda High is a little weak also compared to what it should be for this time of the year as well. Do any of you experts out there see any major changes coming in the next couple of weeks or so to produce a normal looking train of Cape Verde storms for the peak month of 2006??? It seems to me until we start to see more normal favorable conditions out there in the Atlantic instead of everything bunched up 2006 may very well be one of the slowest seasons on record.


There will be another UL in GOM if and when 97L makes it there. The conditions "may" not be too favorable for strenghthening.
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Re: Anyone notice that 2006 Hurricane season is......

#23 Postby SaintRob » Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:23 pm

marcane_1973 wrote:Just way too much going on out there. A great example is this satellite photo in the GOM. http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/avn-l.jpg Conditions are so hostile in that region that the Gulf would be lucky to support a TS at this point. What is the dealio with all these upper level lows in the Atlantic so far this season??? Sorry but I still do not see areas in the Atlantic to support a major cane which should be in place RIGHT NOW. It is almost September for :cry: out loud. The Bermuda High is a little weak also compared to what it should be for this time of the year as well. Do any of you experts out there see any major changes coming in the next couple of weeks or so to produce a normal looking train of Cape Verde storms for the peak month of 2006??? It seems to me until we start to see more normal favorable conditions out there in the Atlantic instead of everything bunched up 2006 may very well be one of the slowest seasons on record.


As a New Orleanian, I for one am ecstatic that the tropics have had 'hostile' conditions. I would much prefer that the coastal US areas have 'favorable' conditions instead of the tropical systems. I don't want to see any 'hostile' conditions in New Orleans or any coastal area any time soon.

I'm sorry, but I just don't get the anticipation that it appears that some people get as they look forward to tropical development. I lurk here very often because I value the opinions of people on this board as I make preparations for what me and my family will do if there is a tropical threat.

Here's to 3+ more months of 'hostile' tropical conditions!
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Re: Anyone notice that 2006 Hurricane season is......

#24 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:44 pm

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marcane_1973 wrote:Just way too much going on out there. A great example is this satellite photo in the GOM. http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/avn-l.jpg Conditions are so hostile in that region that the Gulf would be lucky to support a TS at this point. What is the dealio with all these upper level lows in the Atlantic so far this season??? Sorry but I still do not see areas in the Atlantic to support a major cane which should be in place RIGHT NOW. It is almost September for :cry: out loud. The Bermuda High is a little weak also compared to what it should be for this time of the year as well. Do any of you experts out there see any major changes coming in the next couple of weeks or so to produce a normal looking train of Cape Verde storms for the peak month of 2006??? It seems to me until we start to see more normal favorable conditions out there in the Atlantic instead of everything bunched up 2006 may very well be one of the slowest seasons on record.


As a New Orleanian, I for one am ecstatic that the tropics have had 'hostile' conditions. I would much prefer that the coastal US areas have 'favorable' conditions instead of the tropical systems. I don't want to see any 'hostile' conditions in New Orleans or any coastal area any time soon.

I'm sorry, but I just don't get the anticipation that it appears that some people get as they look forward to tropical development. I lurk here very often because I value the opinions of people on this board as I make preparations for what me and my family will do if there is a tropical threat.

Here's to 3+ more months of 'hostile' tropical conditions!


I second that opinion.
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#25 Postby FrontRunner » Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:12 pm

I'm sorry, but I just don't get the anticipation that it appears that some people get as they look forward to tropical development.


I'm sorry, are you joking? What's not to understand? It's science. Look around you, scientists all over the world are interested in phenomona that, in a given circumstance, might end up damaging things or killing people. Think about the movie Twister (I know it's a movie, but storm chasers do exist). The characters in that movie obviously were fascinated by storms and got a rush of excitement when a tornado formed, despite the fact that i could kill people. They obviously didnt want that, but they loved it for what it was.

Obviously no one wants anyone to die from hurricanes, and no one says that you have to share in people's fascination with tropical weather. But I hate how people come on here and get all worked up over the interest and excitement that comes along with a hurricane season. People are fascinated at nature's power, and there's nothing wrong with being excited when storms form - they're going to form whether we want them to or not, so we might as well enjoy it for the science, education, and thrill that comes along with it.
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#26 Postby Jim Hughes » Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:23 pm

AussieMark wrote:
rainstorm wrote:near normal in named storms, but we are clearly below normal in canes and major canes, the important stat. if debby doesnt make it that will make 4 weak ts's and no canes. marcane makes a good point. condotions remain hostile at this point, as debby looks very bad right now


we are not that far behind

on average we see the first hurricane on August 14 and the second on August 30

on average we see first major on September 3 and the second on September 25

this is using climatology of 1944-2005


Thanks for posting this. Those are the stats I want to hear. I think I need to stroll over to the Tropical Analysis Forum and read senorpepr's ACE data for the season.
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Re: Anyone notice that 2006 Hurricane season is......

#27 Postby Jim Hughes » Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:41 pm

senorpepr wrote:
marcane_1973 wrote:
gtalum wrote:
marcane_1973 wrote:...2006 may very well be one of the slowest seasons on record.


Not likely, since with 4 storms at this point 2006 is slightly ahead of the average year.
You are very wrong my friend. We have not even had a minimal Hurricane yet and it is only about 10 days till September. I am sure that any Pro Met on here would back me up IF conditions do not change in the near future. It will not be THE slowest season on record but it will end up being a weird below average season if things do not change and quick. Time is running out.


My friend... we are not far behind normal for hurricanes and we are actually slightly ABOVE normal in terms of named storms. Furthermore... this CANNOT be the slowest season on record... we are ALREADY 400% above that record.


...and this is a pro met saying this...


But your charts did show us slightly below the 30 year climo as of August 21st. So this should have some meaning to what "has" ocurred so far. Debbie is going to change this of course but the averages start to rise anyway now. So I would imagine that 2006 will barely stay even with par if Debbie does not continue on. Or something else develops.

I think we all can admit that nobody likes to play catch up. Whether it be a b-ball game or a hurricane outlook. It is much better to be ahead in the game.
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#28 Postby SaintRob » Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:14 am

FrontRunner wrote:
I'm sorry, but I just don't get the anticipation that it appears that some people get as they look forward to tropical development.


I'm sorry, are you joking? What's not to understand? It's science. Look around you, scientists all over the world are interested in phenomona that, in a given circumstance, might end up damaging things or killing people. Think about the movie Twister (I know it's a movie, but storm chasers do exist). The characters in that movie obviously were fascinated by storms and got a rush of excitement when a tornado formed, despite the fact that i could kill people. They obviously didnt want that, but they loved it for what it was.

Obviously no one wants anyone to die from hurricanes, and no one says that you have to share in people's fascination with tropical weather. But I hate how people come on here and get all worked up over the interest and excitement that comes along with a hurricane season. People are fascinated at nature's power, and there's nothing wrong with being excited when storms form - they're going to form whether we want them to or not, so we might as well enjoy it for the science, education, and thrill that comes along with it.


No. I am not joking. Perhaps I should phrase my concern slightly different: I don't get how someone can be disappointed and hope for hurricanes to form. If these things grew and stayed out in the Atlantic, I'd have no problem with them. This whole "it's so boring, I wish we'd get something to entertain us" attitude makes me want to vomit. It's one year later and much of the inner city, Lakeview, N.O. East & St. Bernard parish still looks like it did after the flooding receded. Come look at that and enjoy it if you need science, education and a thrill.
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#29 Postby temujin » Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:18 am

SaintRob wrote:
FrontRunner wrote:No. I am not joking. Perhaps I should phrase my concern slightly different: I don't get how someone can be disappointed and hope for hurricanes to form. If these things grew and stayed out in the Atlantic, I'd have no problem with them. This whole "it's so boring, I wish we'd get something to entertain us" attitude makes me want to vomit. It's one year later and much of the inner city, Lakeview, N.O. East & St. Bernard parish still looks like it did after the flooding receded. Come look at that and enjoy it if you need science, education and a thrill.


All my life I've loved thunderstorms and haven't been afraid of them.

About a month ago a huge thunderbolt hit about ten yards from me. It scared the wits out of me. I was actually nervous the next time a storm came through, and I'm a bullish young man.

Nature is very beautiful until you're on the receiving end.
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