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#141 Postby rnbaida » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:33 am

Cansome point out the center for me at this hour?
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#142 Postby canegrl04 » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:33 am

Local met said this morning that Ernesto is moving into more favorable enviro for becoming a hurricane :eek: Probably will be one before the day is over
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#143 Postby storms in NC » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:34 am

What will the ULL do to him if it don't move out of the way? Tear him apart? or move him more to the right?
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#144 Postby KatDaddy » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:38 am

Heres a laugh. This image just changed at Accu-Weather



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#145 Postby ALhurricane » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:39 am

storms in NC wrote:What will the ULL do to him if it don't move out of the way? Tear him apart? or move him more to the right?


If the ULL didn't move, Ernesto would be in big trouble. The storm would likely encounter destructive shear. However, that does not appear to be the case. A look at a 12 plus hour water vapor loop clearly shows the ULL retrograding WSW, just as the NHC stated and the computer models are forecasting. This will help to reduce the shear over the storm and if the two features gain enough seperation, then the ULL could actually help ventilate (strengthen).
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#146 Postby skysummit » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:39 am

KatDaddy wrote:Heres a laugh. This image just changed at Accu-Weather


Why is that a laugh? Evidentally they don't think it'll turn, or they're still using yesterday's guidance :lol:
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#147 Postby storms in NC » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:40 am

KatDaddy wrote:Heres a laugh. This image just changed at Accu-Weather



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Do you really go by Accuweather?
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#148 Postby Scorpion » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:40 am

Lol. Brownsville to Apalachicola.
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#149 Postby meteorologyman » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:41 am

I dont like the fact that half the models that i had just researched ar now predicting Ernesto to Tallahassee Florida, Mississippi area
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#150 Postby storms in NC » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:41 am

Thank you Alhurricane
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#151 Postby KatDaddy » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:41 am

Nope. I take all forecast with many grains of salt except the TPC
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#152 Postby meteorologyman » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:42 am

http://www.crownweather.com/tropical.html

This will show everythin (BIG PAGE)
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#153 Postby TreasureIslandFLGal » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:45 am

the thing I would like to add to my earlier forecasts is a slow down. i don't think they have the speed of the storm correct. i predicted a more northerly path and recurve later which is looking more probable now in th emodels too. but they timing seems to be off (at least on the accuweather graphic). when a more northerly route starts taking place it will mean the storm is rounding the ridge setup and this will be the weakest steering currents. expect the storm to slow down a bit when that begins to happen. i would say 8-9kts forward speed during the curving phase. i would add a day to their distance plots because of that. i.e. their wed night would really pan out to be thursday night locations. this is if the storm swings to the north or northeast in its path. if it maintains a wnw or nw path, the timing/speed would maintain. but as stated a few days ago, i don't think its a TX headed storm. it will curve
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#154 Postby Mac » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:45 am

One thing I think I disagree with about the NHC's official forecast...

They are presently predicting a relatively narrow wind swath in the GoM. I think that Ernie is going to spread his wings and become a much larger storm as he gets to the GoM, as it looks like he'll have lots of warm water to work with, few (if any) inhibiting atmospheric conditions, and good outflow. I see this as a storm that fills the Gulf eventually.
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#155 Postby meteorologyman » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:46 am

You know i hav a strong feeling that Ernesto(male) is a heritage of Katrina, I think he is going to try to prove that he is stronger than Katrina(female)
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#156 Postby storms in NC » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:50 am

Thanks It does show alot. Saved it
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#157 Postby meteorologyman » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:51 am

If Ernesto weakens the shear that is ahead of it, yes it will be a lot stronger than forecasted it could be a major jst before it reaches the Gulf
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#158 Postby meteorologyman » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:51 am

ur welcome :)
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#159 Postby Mac » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:52 am

One thing I think I disagree with about the NHC's official forecast...

They are presently predicting a relatively narrow wind swath in the GoM. I think that Ernie is going to spread his wings and become a much larger storm as he gets to the GoM, as it looks like he'll have lots of warm water to work with, few (if any) inhibiting atmospheric conditions, and good outflow. I see this as a storm that fills the Gulf eventually.
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#160 Postby skysummit » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:52 am

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO TPC/NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONES.

NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER NORTH ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

TROPICAL STORM ERNESTO (AL052006) ON 20060826 1200 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS... ...36 HRS...
060826 1200 060827 0000 060827 1200 060828 0000

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMD 14.9N 70.6W 16.1N 72.7W 17.1N 74.9W 18.0N 77.2W
BAMM 14.9N 70.6W 16.0N 73.1W 17.0N 75.5W 18.1N 77.9W
A98E 14.9N 70.6W 15.6N 72.9W 16.7N 74.9W 17.9N 77.0W
LBAR 14.9N 70.6W 16.1N 72.9W 17.4N 75.3W 18.6N 77.4W
SHIP 45KTS 52KTS 61KTS 71KTS
DSHP 45KTS 52KTS 61KTS 63KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS... ..120 HRS...
060828 1200 060829 1200 060830 1200 060831 1200

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMD 18.7N 79.4W 19.6N 83.9W 20.6N 88.1W 21.7N 91.3W
BAMM 19.0N 80.2W 20.5N 84.3W 21.8N 87.8W 23.0N 90.3W
A98E 18.9N 79.4W 21.0N 84.5W 23.2N 89.0W 25.5N 91.5W
LBAR 19.8N 79.6W 21.6N 83.1W 23.2N 85.9W 25.1N 87.4W
SHIP 80KTS 91KTS 96KTS 94KTS
DSHP 72KTS 71KTS 82KTS 80KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 14.9N LONCUR = 70.6W DIRCUR = 285DEG SPDCUR = 12KT
LATM12 = 14.4N LONM12 = 68.4W DIRM12 = 282DEG SPDM12 = 12KT
LATM24 = 13.7N LONM24 = 65.7W
WNDCUR = 45KT RMAXWD = 40NM WNDM12 = 40KT
CENPRS = 997MB OUTPRS = 1008MB OUTRAD = 150NM SDEPTH = M
RD34NE = 100NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 40NM

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