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#161 Postby Emmett_Brown » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:55 am

Shear beginning to pound Ernesto again. W side of CDO flattening and convection being driven N/NW. This is where Ernesto slows down and jogs more NW in response, or the shear puts the wammy on him. The ULL is moving W/NW, but not as fast as some are forecasting.

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... wg8shr.GIF
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#162 Postby Mac » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:56 am

POUND him???

Does he truly look like a storm that is being "pounded" to you???

Edited to correct quoted text.
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#163 Postby dwg71 » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:56 am

Looks like a couple of those models moved more in line with the globals, while a couple remained well west.
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#164 Postby Portastorm » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:56 am

skysummit wrote:
KatDaddy wrote:Heres a laugh. This image just changed at Accu-Weather


Why is that a laugh? Evidentally they don't think it'll turn, or they're still using yesterday's guidance :lol:


I have seen many, many times where the "global" models overestimate troughs and erode ridges too quickly this time of year. Just a consideration and I will be curious to see what our pro mets say.

I would bank more on any guidance come Monday as I suspect it will change further.
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#165 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:57 am

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... wg8sht.GIF

The shear is decreasing though so I don't think Ernesto is getting hammered.
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#166 Postby bucman1 » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:57 am

pardon my ignorace-what does CDO stand for?
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#167 Postby wzrgirl1 » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:59 am

central dense overcast
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#168 Postby Mac » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:59 am

HurricaneHunter914 wrote:http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8sht.GIF

The shear is decreasing though so I don't think Ernesto is getting hammered.


Agreed. It does not appear to me that shear is going to be a problem for Ernie. He's been dealing well with what shear he has encountered thus far and, as forecast, the shear appears to be diminishing. I still say he'll be a cat 1 tonight some time.
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#169 Postby bucman1 » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:59 am

thanks so much!
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#170 Postby Emmett_Brown » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:59 am

Mac wrote:POUND him???

Does he truly look like a storm that is being "pounded" to you???

Edited to correct quoted text.


Did you look at the shear map?

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... wg8shr.GIF
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#171 Postby skysummit » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:59 am

bucman1 wrote:pardon my ignorace-what does CDO stand for?


Central Dense Overcast....that area of very strong thunderstorms that surround the eye and eyewall....that big "blob" area. Right now Ernesto does not have a CDO since the center is to the NW of the blob. But if he had an eye in the center of that convection, that convection would be the CDO.
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#172 Postby Emmett_Brown » Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:01 am

skysummit wrote:
bucman1 wrote:pardon my ignorace-what does CDO stand for?


Central Dense Overcast....that area of very strong thunderstorms that surround the eye and eyewall....that big "blob" area. Right now Ernesto does not have a CDO since the center is to the NW of the blob. But if he had an eye in the center of that convection, that convection would be the CDO.


Good point... CDO should be reserved for storms that arent badly sheared... but CDO doesnt have to have an eye. Your correction speaks to my point though... lots of shear. Holding his own for now.
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#173 Postby skysummit » Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:02 am

Emmett_Brown wrote:
skysummit wrote:
bucman1 wrote:pardon my ignorace-what does CDO stand for?


Central Dense Overcast....that area of very strong thunderstorms that surround the eye and eyewall....that big "blob" area. Right now Ernesto does not have a CDO since the center is to the NW of the blob. But if he had an eye in the center of that convection, that convection would be the CDO.


Good point... CDO should be reserved for storms that arent badly sheared... but CDO doesnt have to have an eye. Your correction speaks to my point though... lots of shear. Holding his own for now.


You're correct...it doesn't have to have an eye. I just said that so a mental picture could be made :)
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#174 Postby dwg71 » Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:03 am

Looks like he's get elongated from N to S, if west side supression persists, we could have an exposed center by noon or so.
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#175 Postby Mac » Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:03 am

Emmett_Brown wrote:
skysummit wrote:
bucman1 wrote:pardon my ignorace-what does CDO stand for?


Central Dense Overcast....that area of very strong thunderstorms that surround the eye and eyewall....that big "blob" area. Right now Ernesto does not have a CDO since the center is to the NW of the blob. But if he had an eye in the center of that convection, that convection would be the CDO.


Good point... CDO should be reserved for storms that arent badly sheared... but CDO doesnt have to have an eye. Your correction speaks to my point though... lots of shear. Holding his own for now.


With all due respect, this is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a storm that is being "badly sheared."
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#176 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:04 am

Emmett_Brown wrote:
Mac wrote:POUND him???

Does he truly look like a storm that is being "pounded" to you???

Edited to correct quoted text.


Did you look at the shear map?

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... wg8shr.GIF


If you look at the shear tendency map, the shear is decreasing. Plus right he's over 10-20 kt shear so he's not getting pounded yet.
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#177 Postby JBP » Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:05 am

rnbaida wrote:
KatDaddy wrote:Houston looking safer and safer with the new model runs. I would hate to see Ernesto pound the N Central or NE GOM but Texas does not want any part of this system.


it it headed for either MS or AL....just wait and see.


Sure hope you are wrong
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#178 Postby rnbaida » Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:06 am

Do you guys think the 11am advisory will have winds at 50mph or higher?
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#179 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:06 am

May some pro-mets come here and evaluate whether Ernesto is getting pounded or not?
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#180 Postby Scorpion » Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:07 am

I love it when 95% of peoples post come from saying "Shear is getting to the storm. Storm cancel."
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