Hurricane Ernesto: Sat Pics, Models, Analysis Thread #1

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#381 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:07 am

jwayne wrote:
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deltadog03 wrote:http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/loops/wxloop.cgi?wv_east_enhanced+1

here is the shortwave that many are crying wolf about. Its not digging its lifting out.



saw that also...very rare for a shortwave to dig into the central GOM this time of year....and before someone bashes me with a Charley in 04 reference, yes I know all about it.


Bet you within 24 hours we have another flip on track with this storm, putting many s2k members on the brink of needing serious medication.


:lol:

Its quite possible, these things tend to change and this storm has been changing significantly all weekend.
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#382 Postby ROCK » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:08 am

jwayne wrote:
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deltadog03 wrote:http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/loops/wxloop.cgi?wv_east_enhanced+1

here is the shortwave that many are crying wolf about. Its not digging its lifting out.



saw that also...very rare for a shortwave to dig into the central GOM this time of year....and before someone bashes me with a Charley in 04 reference, yes I know all about it.


Bet you within 24 hours we have another flip on track with this storm, putting many s2k members on the brink of needing serious medication.



yeah, I was thinking flip up the east coat of FL attm.....I mean if E wants to eat some more ridge let him have it. Hisp will have him for lunch.....
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#383 Postby Brent » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:08 am

conestogo_flood wrote:How bad will this be in Cayman, my friends there say that they aren't getting much information from the government.


Probably not that bad. Maybe some squalls but no direct hit UNLESS it pulls something and goes south of the NHC track.
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#384 Postby LanceW » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:09 am

Dean4Storms wrote:12z GFS............

http://wxweb.meteostar.com/models/misc/ ... _sfc.shtml


Right up the center of Florida? Am I seeing that correctly?
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#385 Postby SWFLA_CANE » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:11 am

LanceW wrote:
Dean4Storms wrote:12z GFS............

http://wxweb.meteostar.com/models/misc/ ... _sfc.shtml


Right up the center of Florida? Am I seeing that correctly?

Looks like it comes in in swfla and goes up the center
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#386 Postby rnbaida » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:12 am

looks like a miami hit... it wont have time to strengthen at all!!!
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#387 Postby jabber » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:12 am

Looks like it.

LanceW wrote:
Dean4Storms wrote:12z GFS............

http://wxweb.meteostar.com/models/misc/ ... _sfc.shtml


Right up the center of Florida? Am I seeing that correctly?
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#388 Postby skysummit » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:12 am

SWFLA_CANE wrote:
LanceW wrote:
Dean4Storms wrote:12z GFS............

http://wxweb.meteostar.com/models/misc/ ... _sfc.shtml


Right up the center of Florida? Am I seeing that correctly?

Looks like it comes in in swfla and goes up the center


Looks like very near Miami to me.
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#389 Postby rnbaida » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:13 am

Ok start posting elevation and sst maps for this area... We need to look at miami....
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#390 Postby wxman57 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:14 am

Another McIDAS image showing the center a bit better:

http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/ernesto44.gif
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#391 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:14 am

I take it the GFS never initailizes with a low lower than 1008mb? Either that or it initailized wrong again
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#392 Postby Dean4Storms » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:14 am

Zoom in on this Sat. loop, you can clearly see the center and what looks to be an eye trying to clear out. It does look like Ernesto has turned back or wobbles back to the WNW the last few hours or so.


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-vis.html
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#393 Postby LanceW » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:14 am

jabber wrote:Looks like it.

LanceW wrote:
Dean4Storms wrote:12z GFS............

http://wxweb.meteostar.com/models/misc/ ... _sfc.shtml


Right up the center of Florida? Am I seeing that correctly?


That may be the best scenerio, not much time to strengthen more, IMO.
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#394 Postby Javlin » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:14 am

wxman57 wrote:Here's a high-res McIDAS image with the center clearly located. It's east of the blob of convection south of the western tip of Haiti. That blob may be moving/building WNW but the center is not.

http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/ernesto43.gif


Looks to me Ernie is building a better outflow to the W contray to what many are saying that the system looks weak or ragged it looks good there.The ULL to W looks to be moving out quickly and enhancing the flow to the W of the storm.Questions:as the ULL moves out does that create a void for the storm to move into are high pressure.

I wanted to add was not it the ULL to the N and W that has kept E at it's present location and slow forward motion.
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#395 Postby bayoubebe » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:15 am

With all the junk posted, I can't even find the important stuff, hehe.

Could someone please tell me where a picture of the LATEST model predictions are and where the latest UPDATED track /forecast is?

THANKYOU
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#396 Postby Dean4Storms » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:16 am

wxman57 wrote:Another McIDAS image showing the center a bit better:

http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/ernesto44.gif



wxman, that is an old pic, the center now is clearly visible south of that liitle thumb of Haiti's for lack of a better description. It is moving more wnw now.

See link, zoom in........

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-vis.html
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#397 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:16 am

bayoubebe wrote:With all the junk posted, I can't even find the important stuff, hehe.

Could someone please tell me where a picture of the LATEST model predictions are and where the latest UPDATED track /forecast is?

THANKYOU
There's a GFS run posted at the top of this page.
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#398 Postby Thatsmrhurricane » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:17 am

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#399 Postby wxman57 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:17 am

Dean4Storms wrote:Zoom in on this Sat. loop, you can clearly see the center and what looks to be an eye trying to clear out. It does look like Ernesto has turned back or wobbles back to the WNW the last few hours or so.


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-vis.html


Actually, what you're looking at appears to be convection diminishing and the cirrus clouds no longer covering the LLC.
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#400 Postby wxman57 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:18 am

Dean4Storms wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Another McIDAS image showing the center a bit better:

http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/ernesto44.gif



wxman, that is an old pic, the center now is clearly visible south of that liitle thumb of Haiti's for lack of a better description. It is moving more wnw now.

See link, zoom in........

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-vis.html


Check the time on the bottom, scan time started 1602Z. It's the most recent image available. The image on your loop is 15 minutes older, and much poorer resolution.
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