Anyone Think Ernesto Will Become A Hurricane, Again?

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Anyone Think Ernesto Will Become A Hurricane, Again?

#1 Postby Sean in New Orleans » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:26 pm

I'm beginning to think it may...just a Cat. 1, but, to me, the system looks very organized and it's going to spend a decent amount of time over warm waters in the next day or so...
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#2 Postby Old-TimeCane » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:40 pm

It may, but I don't think it'll amount to much (wind wise at least) here. It's going to be a windy, rainy day tomorrow here. I live about 12 miles inland, but work about 1/2-3/4 of a mile from the beach. I'm planning on taking a trip down to the beach after work tomorrow just to have a look if conditions allow for me to. Last I looked, it'll be hitting near here around 8 PM, and I get off at 5.
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Re: Anyone Think Ernesto Will Become A Hurricane, Again?

#3 Postby WxGuy1 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:45 pm

Sean in New Orleans wrote:I'm beginning to think it may...just a Cat. 1, but, to me, the system looks very organized and it's going to spend a decent amount of time over warm waters in the next day or so...


I think it looked better around noon when it had a very solid, impressive-looking convective band in the southwest 1/2 part very near the center of circulation. The radar presentation looks quite a bit worse than it did earlier today, IMO. There is some strong convection to the north and northeast of the center, but overall coverage has dropped since mid-day. Of course, now that it's over water, we'll just have to wait to see what it does. There seems to have been some enhancement of daytime convection from greater instability owing to diabatic heating (i.e. sunshine allowed the surface temperatures to warm, increasing instability).
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#4 Postby Sean in New Orleans » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:52 pm

I'm mainly looking at the very good circulation, right now, not really the precip. The circulation should pick up lots of moisture before next landfall, IMO.
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#5 Postby WxGuy1 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:56 pm

Sean in New Orleans wrote:I'm mainly looking at the very good circulation, right now, not really the precip. The circulation should pick up lots of moisture before next landfall, IMO.


Yeah, but the circulation has looked pretty decent all day. Convective precipitation coverage and organization is a pretty good indication of the 3D circulation and organization of cyclones. I'm not sure of the effect of smaller areas of strong convection vs. larger areas of weaker convection, so anyone want to run a model so we can look at latent heat release patterns? :lol:
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#6 Postby HurricaneBill » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:57 am

I think it's unlikely, but considering how Ernesto seems to like going against forecasts, it wouldn't surprise me.
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18 hours to go...25 mph to go...why not?

#7 Postby RevDodd » Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:06 am

Ernesto is finally free of the limitations that held him in check all of his life. Nothing but warm water, no shear to speak of and wide open spaces between him and our neck of the woods.

I'm not sure why some folks seem so intent on labeling Ernesto a slackicane, but given the circumstance before him today, he certanly could drop the mmbs and pick up the winds to regain 'can form.
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#8 Postby Bane » Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:36 am

it looks very possible right now. sustained winds appear to currently be between 55-65 mph as reported from recon.
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#9 Postby SCMedic » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:12 am

I've said since yesterday that I thought it would, and I continue to think it will. Don't be suprised to see 65mph @ 11am.
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#10 Postby shaggy » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:17 am

latest obs show a open eye 25 miles wide and flight level winds of 61knts
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#11 Postby Stormsfury » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:20 am

I wouldn't be surprised to see steady strengthening, but there might be some baroclinic enhancement processes going on but high end tropical storm force winds are not out of the question, and a small chance of minimal CAT 1 status.

It does have another 12 hours over water. If we see another explosion of convection like yesterday when Ernesto was over Florida, then I'd really be concerned of a quicker rate of strengthening ...

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#12 Postby Stormavoider » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:32 am

ncdowneast wrote:latest obs show a open eye 25 miles wide and flight level winds of 61knts
Were is this open eye?

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/get-goes?satellite=GOES-E%20CONUS&lat=30&lon=-80&info=vis&zoom=1&width=2800&height=2000&type=Animation&numframes=6&palette=ir.pal
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#13 Postby nequad » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:49 am

Yes...it will reach minimal CAT 1 status before making landfall near Cape Fear in about 12-14 hours.
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#14 Postby Josephine96 » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:54 am

show me proof this thing has an eye :wink:
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#15 Postby bobbutts » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:02 am

Vortex Data Message
A. 31/11:02:10Z
B. 30 deg 13 min N
079 deg 51 min W
C. 850 mb 1398 m
D. NA kt
E. NA deg nm
F. 233 deg 061 kt
G. 127 deg 023 nm
H. 996 mb
I. 16 C/ 1445 m
J. 18 C/ 1523 m
K. 18 C/ NA
L. OPEN NW
M. C25
N. 12345/ 8
O. 0.02 / 1 nm
P. AF303 2105A ERNESTO OB 28
MAX FL WIND 61 KT SE QUAD 10:55:00 Z
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#16 Postby Aquawind » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:06 am

I think it can. This is a good example how the mountains do a real number on systems versus flat lowlands.. Be prepared Carolinians!
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#17 Postby shaggy » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:08 am

if im not mistaken the recon message the letter L is where they show if the eye is open or closed and it says open on the NW side which means it DOSN"T have a closed eye .......yet ....it has an open eye or COC
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#18 Postby emeraldislencguy » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:21 am

i think we will have a cat 1 by 2 pm tody--the satellite presentation is looking better every hour and the warm water of the gulf stream are ahead--storms coming from this direction are never good for the eastern part of nc--this will put us on the right side of the storm is it hits near cape fear--high tide is around 1 p.m. tonight--so it it hits in the evening it will be on a rising tide
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#19 Postby cinlfla » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:25 am

I do, Looking at the visable loop I do think that ernesto will be a hurricane at landfall.
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#20 Postby Jim Cantore » Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:41 am

As of now I'm giving it a 35% chance, Depending on the 11am advisory I could move that number up or down.
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