Hurricane Warnings/Watches Earlier for NC/SC???

[artist]

That is the incompetence of the local authorities then. Ours were like that before Jeanne - it was as if they thought it was all just going to go away - even after Frances had just hit. They should be holding press conferences to let residents know what is going on.

[Thatsmrhurricane]

Would ya know it . . .they just started talking about people in trailers and low areas "might want to think about leaving."

[artist]

Max Mayfeild was just on Fox News stating it is near hurricane strength but they think it will be a strong ts. He said NC is preparing for a cat 1 though. He said his worry is the surge and flooding.

[Thatsmrhurricane]

Al the stations are saying Cape Fear river land fall.

[artist]

that would be really bad for flooding, right?

[fci]

That is the incompetence of the local authorities then. Ours were like that before Jeanne - it was as if they thought it was all just going to go away - even after Frances had just hit. They should be holding press conferences to let residents know what is going on.

I have read through this entire thread and am perplexed as to why there are people who will simply not put any responsibility or culpability on the NHC.
Are they superhuman and just exempt from scrutiny?

Some of the posts from residents should tell you that The NHC should have warned people more about an impending Hurricane. Their neighbors and co-workers simply don't know what might be coming.

Blame the local media?
The NHC advisories and releases DRIVE the media.
Or at least they are supposed to.
If they rescinded the Hurricane Watch yesterday and then issued it again at 11 AM today how can you blame the local media for not warning people last night. The NHC didn't!

The General Public just does not get the message when there is a WATCH.
WARNING means something.
How is that hard to understand and admit???

Now, maybe there are posts that Mods have deleted which prompted them to threaten to ban members from S2K. I just don't see them in this thread.
Is it so wrong to argue/discuss differing points of view with Mods and disagree with the NHC?
I hope that the warnings in this thread were prompted by "since deleted" posts since I really don't see offensive posts in the thread.

The NHC has, in my opinion; shown a serious inconsistency on this storm from putting out watches maybe too far in advance (a good thing) to not far enough in advance (a bad thing).

Please stop from just giving a "blanket pardon" to the NHC.
They can make mistakes too.
They are human
Weather is not and the NHC is doing its best to serve and protect.
I just feel that they did not do a very good job this time.

[artist]

fci - it hasn't happened yet so how can you say that?

[fci]

All the more reason to say it now since it is irrelevant to the arguement.

Whether or not this storm intensifies to a Hurricane prior to landfall does not change the facts of how this was handled by the NHC because it could.

If it was not possible to intensify then this thread would never have been posted.

That's my point, irregardless of the results, people were not prepared.

I hope that Ernesto does not strengthen and no one is harmed.
I also hope that there are "lessons learned" from this storm and its handling by the NHC so that the same mistakes are not made again.

The NHC has no control on the storms, only the information that they disseminate.

You may have missed my point.
It is NOT to say "I told you so".
Never has been and never will be.
It is to hopefully not have the same mistakes repeated.

[artist]

how can you fault them for something that has not happened?? There has to be a cut off otherwise someone would complain they shouldn't have issued a warning, or did it too early, etc. That is why guidelines are set. If it hits over hurricane strength, then have at it, but it doesn't appear it will.

[fci]

how can you fault them for something that has not happened?? There has to be a cut off otherwise someone would complain they shouldn't have issued a warning, or did it too early, etc. That is why guidelines are set. If it hits over hurricane strength, then have at it, but it doesn't appear it will.

I don't give much credence to criticism of issuing a warning too early.
People are safer.

Without going too far off topic, here is an example.
Flash flooding going on.
Person ignores the warning to not drive through a flooded road.
Does so and they end up safe, car does not get washed away.
So you do you fault them?

Should they do the same thing next time?

Using your logic stated above,
"how can you fault them for something that has not happened?? "

That is the ENTIRE POINT OF MY statements in this thread!
I don't want the world to wait until the NHC DOES have a disaster on their hands.
I want them to learn from this mistake.

And,yes; it was a mistake
Regardless of the outcome.

[artist]

True - BUT if they say it is a 1 then it is only a ts people will think they have indeed gone thru a cat 1 and think it is nothing to worry about the next time around when indeed there is a difference. I have seen it here the last couple of years.

[fci]

More people get hurt in the scenario where it is stronger than predicted but I would rather they err on that side then the opposite.

If people really think that because they think they went through a Cat 1 and it is nothing to worry since it was only a TS; then shame on them.

Bottom line is still that the NHC did its job to warn them.
The NHC can't take the precautions FOR the residents; they can only adequately warn them and in this case, I don't think they did that well enough no matter how this turns out.

[Lindaloo]

I gave a warning in this thread but yet, it continues. Have no choice but to hand out what I said would be done and this thread is locked.